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By Dan Bernstein–

Tom Thibodeau was hired to improve the Bulls’ defense, but it’s possible that he has done much more than that.

In the span of just a few months, he may have them stopping opponents like no other team has in modern franchise history.

Sometimes reputations are merely products of fortuitous timing, and hopes that a coach’s success may transfer from one franchise to another are often dashed.

In the case of Thibs, he’s doing exactly what he did in Boston. The Celtics won a championship because they defended and rebounded, and he has installed the same system here, hoping for the same result in his first year in command of a team.

Some numbers (I am going to keep things simple, fully understanding there are all kinds of new metrics of debatable accuracy that can be applied as well): the Bulls this year are leading the NBA in opponent scoring average at 91.3 PPG. The Scott Skiles team of ’04-’05 allowed 93.4, the ’06-’07 team 93.8.

The 72-win team in ’95-’96? Opponents averaged 92.9. The next year’s champs? 92.3.

The ’97-’98 Bulls are in the conversation, since they held opponents to 89.6 PPG, and kept their field-goal percentage at a stingy .431.

Thibs’s guys are allowing a FG% against of just .429.

I’ll push the case for this year’s team, primarily because changes in NBA rules have made it tougher than ever to guard, and these numbers are not accomplished by depressing overall scoring like, say, Jeff Van Gundy’s Knicks that only scored in the high 80s themselves.

In 1999 – after the championship run ended — the following was enacted: “In the backcourt, there is no contact with hands and forearms by defenders. In the frontcourt, there is no contact with hands and forearms by defenders except below the free throw line extended in which case the defender may only use his forearm. Defender may not use his forearm, shoulder, hip or hand to reroute or hold-up an offensive player going from point A to point B or one who is attempting to come around a legal screen set by another offensive player. Slowing or impeding the progress of the screener by grabbing, clutching, holding, “chucking,” or “wrapping up” is prohibited.”

In other words, Michael Jordan can’t do what he did to Reggie Miller, Scottie Pippen can’t do what he did to Magic Johnson, and Bill Cartwright probably can’t do anything to anybody.

Now, defense is not a case of individual players wrestling with a nightly matchup, hand-fighting and bumping up and down the floor. It’s helping, recovering, dropping down and closing back out to shooters quickly but under control. Defense is an entity, reacting though awareness, effort and muscle-memory. Help, recover, cut off a lane and return to your man. Again. Run end-to-end.

This is what Thibodeau does. Hell, it’s what Thibodeau is.

Fans like to see the ball go in the basket, and we all love the determined aerobatics of Derrick Rose, but appreciate what is really underpinning the Bulls’ rise to the league’s elite.

Try to watch them actually play defense, rather than only watching the results. The missed shot was great, but it came because of a well-timed block-to-block baseline slide. The shot-clock violation occurred because the first option was taken away, the second turned aside and the third caught the ball where he couldn’t do what he wanted. Altered shots can be as valuable as blocks. Active hands and feet mean deflections and runouts.

What’s going on right now may not be sexy, but it may be special.



 Bernstein: Is This The Bulls Best Defense Ever?

Dan Bernstein


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  • Larry Horse’s Arse

    And Da Boo can go into 1st place in the Conference if they smack down the lowly Wiz tonight.

    Dee-Fence wins championships.

    • bigtime sucker

      the only problem with blog this morning is the picture. not congruent with article. if the picture had noah and gibson, or noah and deng or gibson and thomas or brewer bogans deng gibson and noah, then much more congruent, but don’t talk about defense and then put a picture with rose who is better but not great and boozer who reaks of defensive stinkatude!!!

  • Larry Horse’s Arse

    Maybe my reading comprehension is off……but I seem to recall from Jon’s many posts (for which I am grateful, in a Tournament of Good I’d nominate Jon for this board) that the #2 seed in the Jason Goff Region was Japanese Real Estate.
    But now on the TOB brackets listed on the Score website, the #2 Goff Region slot is blank.
    Et tu P.C. Police???

    • Murphs Upper-Lip

      Nice catch LHA, hope they at least address this on the show today. That really sucks, CBS, but I expect nothing less from you.

    • Denver Deadite

      Yeah, it looks like that was left off, LHA.

      That, and “Fan’s of Glee” should be “Fans of Glee”.

      And is it just me, or is there just not as many laugh out loud entries as the previous editions? It’s still a good field, just not as many great entries, it seems.

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        Yes, I noticed that wayward apostrophe in Fans as well.
        But it was such a strong entry that I just decided to ignore it.

      • Pulseczar

        I read Japan Housing Market and didn’t think it was too harsh.

        I noticed Fan’s too.

        Unnece’s'sary apo’strophe’s jump out at me like ‘strobe light’s.

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        Ye’s they certainly do.

    • Jon, Montgomery

      alright, i’m going to solve this mystery…

      here’s jason’s bracket from yesterday:

      1.) fans of glee
      16.) canker sores/robots (play-in game)

      8.) the cleveland cavaliers
      9.) bishop eddie long

      5.) kid leashes
      12.) whiite sox twitter-gate

      4.) exploding fist bumps
      13.) snooki’s face

      6.) NFL brains
      11.) charlie sheen’s rehab efforts

      3.) sex and the city 2
      14.) carlos boozer’s defense

      7.) mel gibson’s phone etiquette
      10.) antonio cromartie’s birth control

      2.) the japanese housing market
      15.) brian wilson’s beard

      and here’s jason’s bracket today:

      1.) fans of glee
      16.) canker sores/robots (play-in game)

      8.) the cleveland cavaliers
      9.) bishop eddie long

      5.) madden 11 (REMEMBER THIS)
      12.) white sox twitter-gate

      4.) kid leashes (REMEMBER THIS)
      13.) snooki’s face

      6.) NFL brains
      11.) charlie sheen’s rehab efforts

      3.) exploding fist bumps (REMEMBER THIS)
      14.) carlos boozer’s defense

      7.) mel gibson’s phone etiquette
      10.) antonio cromartie’s birth control

      2.) sex in the city 2 (REMEMBER THIS)
      15.) brian wilson’s beard

      so, the following ‘bads’ were moved:

      ‘kid leashes’ was moved from the 5th seed to the 4th seed

      ‘exploding fist bumps’ was moved from the 4th seed to the 3rd seed

      ‘sex in the city 2′ was moved from the 3rd seed to the 2nd seed

      and filling in the spot vacated at the 5th seed is ‘madden 11′

      all this to get ‘the japanese housing market’ out of the tournament.

      now look, i understand how it can be offensive and that it shouldn’t have been in the tournament in the first place so this couldn’t happen. and i know this is just for fun, but do they realize that they just s.cre.wed up a ton of TOB brackets all over the country? i’m not joking. some people have MONEY on these brackets, and for them to make a change now and completely sc.r.ew up the goff region is un-called for.

      chalk it up as another FAIL by the score.

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        THANKS Sherlock Jon.
        So, Madden 11 was added at 5 and the others in front bumped up a spot?

      • Jon, Montgomery

        that’s correct arse watson (LOL)

        i missed the first 45 minutes of the show today, so i missed any explanation that spoon referred to. i’ll see if it comes up on the podcasts later.

        but yeah, this is definately going to go down in score history as ‘the japanese housing market-gate tournament of bad-gate GATE’

      • Beverly Brewmaster

        It’s not entirely the Score’s fault. Their advertisers complained. You have to pick your battles, and I can understand why this is one they chose not to fight (even if Goff might think differently).

      • Spoon

        I’m honestly not shocked at all, it was a bit too soon to try dropping that one. While I didnt find it offensive, I can absolutely see where someone else could. Especially with the number of ads they carry on The Score for Acura/Lexus, etc.

  • kev in skokie

    D Wade showed some D on Big Fun last night. What was Tim Duncan thinking on that one?

  • bigtime sucker

    dan’s last line is why the nat. media doesn’t like the bulls. NOT SEXY. they are not sexy at all. heck they are vitrually a college like TEAM but i am enjoying this season very much. they might eclipse that prediction of 57 wins that i made at the beginning of the season. Here’s when i started believing in the bulls

    they signed boozer, james does his decision thingie. the media wanted reaction from a bulls player about the reaction. who better than Joakim Noah right? where was he?

    at the berto center working out. he gave his reaction covered in sweat with a towel around his neck. while the heat were partying, noah rose boozer and gang were working out. it’s not sexy, it’s not going to get them on access hollywood. but it’s proof that they are the right people doing the right things relentlessly

    • Larry

      The defense may not be sexy, but at least the Bulls have BIG SEXY waiting in the weengs for the playoffs to start (right next to White Mambo).

      • Pulseczar

        Mambo?

  • Mark, Sterling

    After reading that rule change cited in this article….MJ’s “Based on these rules, if I had to play with my style of play, I’m pretty sure I would have fouled out or I would have been at the free throw line pretty often and I could have scored 100 points.” Suddenly makes sense….

    • Chris in Scottsdale

      Mark-

      Nice catch! If that’s where Jordan was indeed coming from, then his PPG could have been obscene!

  • Murphs Upper-Lip

    “the Bulls this year are leading the NBA in opponent scoring average at 91.3 PPG” Actually, Boston has given up 91.2, but given that they learned much of their defense from Thibs, we’ll let that slide. Looking forward to tonight’s Wizards matchup, it’ll be fun to see da Boo in first place all by themselves.

  • Murphs Upper-Lip

    http://yfrog.com/hs4wzjdj

    TOB-gate continues… Here’s J. Goffs original selection sheet. Look at the top right corner.

    • Larry Horse’s Arse

      Thanks M U-L.
      Helps me hope that early onset Alzheimer’s has not yet begun for me.

    • Murphs Upper-Lip

      Notice no apostrophe in “Fans of Glee.” Looks like Matty is the culprit, not Goff.

  • meesohawnee

    wow. what a shocker. Hawks have a “playoff game” last night and today its the Boers,Bernstein,Bulls show. Feel free to recognize there is a stanley cup champ in town dan. Were waiting. . and waiting. though ive long since gone from this show. What a shame to see a really really intelligent guy choose to be so one dimensional.

    • Denver Deadite

      If you want Hawks talk, you’ll have to turn to the Danny Mac Show. There, they genuinely care about hockey, where as for B&B it’s just part (or not part of) the ratings game.

    • Simon

      He has had plenty of hockey blog entries.

      Start your own blog and talk about what you want.

    • Murphs Upper-Lip

      “Were waiting. . ” – “ive” – “though ive long since gone from this show”??? – If you wanna talk Hawks, you can talk Hawks intelligently right here on this blog, even though it isn’t the main topic, and you will get good responses and feedback. Key word, though, is intelligently.

    • Chris in Scottsdale

      That’s a bit unfair.

      Face facts- as much as I enjoy the Hawks, they’re the fifth horse in a five-horse race. For the love of god, it’s not exactly a new phenomenon. At no point are B&B beholden to acknowledge every team in equal, deserving fashion based upon accomplishments, otherwise we’d hear baseball as often as we hear horse racing.

      We get it, you’re a Hockey Jockey… but in Chicago hockey just doesn’t create the ad revenue -and web traffic- that meatball Bear, Cub, Sox, and Bull fans do.

      Plus, why gripe about a guy that professes to not be the biggest hockey guy because he doesn’t cover it? Basically, you’re saying that you just want to hear about hockey no matter who is talking about it. Pretty myopic. There are other hosts that are willing to give hockey its due. Just because one doesn’t is no reason to throw bitter smarmy barbs.

      I feel ya, but Stanley Cup or no, Bernstein’s not being one-dimensional by covering everything en masse BUT hockey… but you kind of are by griping about his neglect of a single sport.

    • Spoon

      STOP TALKING HOCKEY!

  • Pulseczar

    It’s just weird to see a picture of Carlos Boozer under a headline that has anything to do with “Best Defense.”

    Defense isn’t as sexy as offense. That’s mainly why the rules have become what they are today. The average viewer wants to see scoring.

    • Murphs Upper-Lip

      Exactly right. Same goes for football and baseball. If Milwaukee Bud, not to be confused with Milwaukee Mike (though I can see the mistake being made), had his way, STEROIDS AND HGH FOR ALL! There is nothing better than a 1-0, 2-1 game, but don’t tell Bud. Seems he looks short term, not long term, he figured, hey, this CAN’T backfire.

    • Chris in Scottsdale

      Pulse-

      I was thinking the same thing… The fact that Rose AND Boozer are in the picture made me giggle.

      • Chet Coppock

        Why would Rose in the pic make you giggle? He’s developed into a solid defensive guard under Thibbs. What a Bulls game and get a clue!

      • Chris in Scottsdale

        Solid? Meh. He’s BETTER… but as gifted as he is athletically, he’s not what he should be- yet.

        He’s come a long way, no doubt… but he’s HAD to come a long way, because his defense 24 months ago was kind of Nashy.

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        Totally true Chris, but he was Nashy thanks to the “coaching” of Vinny Del Bevington. With Thibs…legit Coach. Credit DRose for being “coachable”.

      • Chet Coppock

        Rose is a top 5 defensive PG in the NBA, maybe higher.

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        And you, sir, in all the world are among the top-5 fur-coat wearing podcasters sponsored by American Taxi.

      • Murphs Upper-Lip

        “Rose is a top 5 defensive PG in the NBA, maybe higher.” Semantics, but that’s like saying you’re giving it 110%. If you’re in the top 5, that states you COULD be number one, can’t get any “higher” than that. Deflated.

      • Chet Coppock

        Horse;

        It’s a gig, you don’t have to mock it

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        Very aptly put M U-L.

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        Oh, Chester…not mocking…just getting you onto a top-5 list for the first time in 20 years.

      • Chet Coppock

        Appreciate it. And it maybe be a podcast, but it’s easy
        M-O-N-E-Y

    • Larry

      Mambo equals Scalabrine, per Stacey King

      • Pulseczar

        I thought he was the White Mamba. Sorta a play on Kobe being the Black Mamba.

  • Dr that doesn’t help people

    If Terry Boers and Charlie Sheen tweeted together, the world would end. If Terry Boers and Charlie Sheen did coke together, the world would begin. Thank you.

  • Mike in Des Moines

    Points per posession. And the Bulls lead the league in that. It’s the best metric, combined with field goal percentage. And if you have a team that can rebound, you have a great NBA defense.

    This Bulls team is clearly the best in the NBA, especially when you consider the rebounders.

  • Chris in Scottsdale

    Thinking more about the “missing” 2-seed in the JG region, I can understand why they did it…. though I can’t say I agree.

    Apparently in terms of disaster acknowledgement and media respect, Miyagi Prefecture > Gulf Coast/Deep South > Chile > Haiti.

    • Likquid Swordz

      Interesting take Chris, and its very disturbing

      Could TOB get a WYC?

      • Chris in Scottsdale

        I dunno… That’s dicey. If I’m the prod on phone duty, I wouldn’t let it go through.

        The only thing worse than media taboo is media taboo affecting my sports talk enjoyment :)

    • bigtime sucker

      no chris, japan is now, the media eye of sauron is fixed on japan, cnn anderson cooper in japan all day every day, and others it’s the soup de jour, and thus anything spoken ill of it is immediatly considered insensitve. gulf coast/deep south, 1/2 a decade old news, chile last years news, haiti last years news. the next disaster that strikes will cause people to forget about the horrific situation in japan, that or charlie sheens next meltdown

      • bigtime sucker

        i mean who cares about that tsunami that happened in indonesia 6 years ago, they must have everything all fixed up and their lives back to normal right? no, they blast us with over-coverage until we say enough already then we forget about it, it’s a sad commentary about our short attention spans and our true hearts

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        Very well said bts.
        Sad but accurate.

  • Chitownduck

    I think missing from the TOB is “People that don’t believe the truth” or Jason Whitlock or NFL analysts after the NFC championship. Something along those lines. I think the Monday after the NFC championship might have been the grandest day of stupid in football history.

  • Mike Murphy

    clap, clap, clap, I’ve got my TOB brackets filled out, but, but, I have a write in candidate, how about 670 the Score Management, specifically human resources managemen and employee relations. I’ve got a beef!

  • Jon

    I thought Dan was taking a break today. I usually just go to the 670 the Score blog links, and didn’t see this blog updated on that page, finally saw it at the root of the site, another fail for the web team?

  • SHARK

    I don’t know if this year’s Bulls’ team will be mentioned among the all-time best defensive teams in NBA history, but what first year head coach Tom Thibodeau’s Bulls have done to this point should not be a surprise. After all, Thibodeau worked with one of the best coaches in the league right now in Glenn “Doc” Rivers up in Boston prior to getting this first head coaching job here in Chicago. I just hope this year’s Bulls team can continue to play solid defense and grab a bunch of other bad at basketball teams by the throat down the stretch. After all, I’d like to see a fresh Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah, Carlos Boozer and Luol Deng, let alone a healthy Bulls’ team come playoff time, regardless if they are the #1, #2 or #3 seeds in the Eastern Conference.

  • Larry Horse’s Arse

    I just saw a business blurb that newspaper ad revenue hit a 25-year low in 2010…nationally.
    Lots of reasons.
    But I think that a blog like this is among them……this is far more interesting than any of the “columns” in the newspapers.
    I also confess to reading all of my newspapers on-line.
    I gave up my last print subscription two years ago…and I’m an old fart not in the e-demographic.

    • Mike in Milwaukee

      I still want my god damn paper! I read it in the garage

      • Murphs Upper-Lip

        You got heat yet in that garage, their, Mike?

  • SHARK

    Here’s a topic that I hope Bernsy & Goff bring up in the “Second Half” this afternoon, or possibly tomorrow when LoHo sits in for Boers. I’m starting to wonder if next month’s NFL Draft in New York is rapidly becoming a bad idea given the lockout and the news yesterday in which the NFL Players Association is trying to discourage those likely to be drafted from attending the big event in prime time. While I’m aware it was agreed to long before the players & owners couldn’t get a new collective bargaining agreement done before last Friday’s official lockout, it seems kinda awkward that any NFL business can go on, including the Draft, with neither side close to a new CBA.

    It may not be the only sports league that could be facing a work stoppage. The NBA’s got labor issues of their own, and that might be the next sports league facing the dreaded “L” word.

    • bigtime sucker

      the difference is when you watch nba basketball games NOT played in chicago new york boston miami orlando OKC LA san antonio and phoenix and maybe a few others, you see the empty seats. when you look at television ratings, locally our bulls do well, boston probably the new new york knicks do well and i am sure the lakers do well, but nationally they are closer to college football ratings than NFL ratings. What’s saving the league as a whole are the large markets and overseas, but where does overseas revenue fit into the total pie? there are NBA franchises that you KNOW are loosing money. watch a pistons game. the bucks, pacers, bobcats, timberwolves, golden state, new orleans, nets, atlanta, not sure about philly, perhaps houston, you can see the revs dipping, the empty arenas the towns that could care less. it’s far easier to sympathise with an NBA owner because their woes are really visable, the NFL the external numbers and just the eye tests paint a much much different picture.

  • Spoon

    So I sorta missed the announcement they had for the TOB, did they remove Goff’s #2?

    • Larry Horse’s Arse

      I can’t listen live, so we must depend on one of the other posters to let us know if Bernsie/Goff addressed this on the show.

      All I know is that some time between the bracket being posted last evening at 5pm and this morning…the #2 in the Goff region was wiped out.
      My guess is that the sponsor or the Score’s sales-hole for that account balked.

    • Spoon

      Well, I caught the tail end of a ‘press conference’ with The Committee explaining a change, but I was on the phone and couldnt actually listen to what was said till the end, and they didnt restate the point at the very end.

      • Chris in Scottsdale

        Goff’s Twitter has people coming to his support…

  • Chris in Scottsdale

    Dadgum it… I missed the first hour. I keep forgetting that they’re on at 11 here now rather than noon… did they cover the JG 2-seed controversy?

    • Larry Horse’s Arse

      Seems so…..Spoon caught a snippet of that discussion but had to take a phone call…so we are awaiting an ear-witness to post.

    • Beverly Brewmaster

      I was in your hood over the weekend and it was definitely odd to leave with a one-hour time difference and return with a two-hour time difference…

      • Beverly Brewmaster

        I should add it was also odd to log onto my computer at 10:15am and notice that the Hawks were already in the second period.

      • Chris in Scottsdale

        BevBrew… the time change is one of but many things we don’t acknowledge here in Arizona…

        …federal immigration laws…
        …MLK eventually, despite being slow on the uptake…
        …the Rose Bowl…

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        Until a few years ago, we in Indiana also refused to change the time…because it’d confuse the chickens.

      • Jon, Montgomery

        LOL!

    • Spoon

      In a fine example of Murphy’s Law, I also managed to miss most of the 2nd discussion about it. Caught enough to get the impression that CBS said ‘No’. Goff was complaining about it and Dan saying something like “My advice, is to just drop it like it’s hot” Something to that effect.

  • Larry Horse’s Arse

    Do you think that anyone has ever worn a Rudy Gay jersey outside of family and friends?

  • Joakim’s bong

    Goff, sure likes the sound of his own voice

  • Murphs Mustache comb

    I miss Terry!!

  • Jaimie in Hoffman Estates

    Why is this the first im hearing, of Harry(by-cracky) possibily have pot resin on his shirt?

  • Geovany Soto

    Damn, does he have any more?

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