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By Dan Bernstein–

Another trial balloon from the Cubs has been met with another round of skepticism, and rightly so.

Last time around, an ill-timed, tone-deaf request for public money exploded in the faces of the Ricketts family. Swift condemnation from Mayor Daley and Governor Quinn echoed public sentiment, and whatever haphazard legislative effort had begun was soon scuttled meekly.

Yesterday’s expressed desire for a shutdown of a block of Sheffield Avenue for nine days of street festivals this summer was not on that scale – either in sheer size or chutzpah – but local officials still don’t seem much in the mood to party.

The Cubs saw the success of the “Wildcat Way” event in November for the Northwestern/Illinois football game at Wrigley, and are looking to recreate it around the three weekend series against the Yankees, White Sox and Cardinals, trying to spin it as something good for local businesses.

Alderman Tom Tunney isn’t so sure. “We have to have a real serious sitdown,” he told the Tribune. “We have enough festivals in the 44th Ward here, period, and parades.”

The difference in the crowd and atmosphere, too, makes it a riskier proposition. Tunney knows an alcohol-fueled mix of opposing fans, especially during hot rivalry weekends known to fray nerves, isn’t the same as that football game’s well-behaved group of alumni, students and families.

Cubs/Sox affairs can only be kid-friendly by the loosest definition. Some of us would not even think of taking our kids to those games at either park, let alone to a concurrent free-admission fair where beer is sold. The idea of safely juxtaposing face-painting and glad-handing with that potential mosh pit seems wishful, especially when we recall the scene on the streets during the 2003 playoffs, that too often looked like Arsenal and Man U were playing inside.

(Andy MacPhail, the Cubs’ President at the time, referred to that vibe as “negative energy.”)

Also uncertain is whether the plan hurts or helps independent merchants. It’s no secret that Tom Ricketts envies Boston’s Yawkey Way, a two-block stretch of city street that has been made a part of Fenway Park, and vacuums cash into team coffers. Any long-range plans involving the “triangle” building adjacent to Wrigley would likely use N. Seminary Avenue similarly.

Wrigleyville business leaders know these festivals are a trial run for the Cubs’ inevitable moves to take over the food and beer sales for themselves. No roadmap to financial flexibility or survival is complete without it.

As the phrase goes, it’s gonna happen.

Eventually, fans with tickets to the game will enter the park grounds at either end of Seminary, enjoying pregame fare supplied by the Cubs and buying bagfuls of overpriced swag directly from the team.

In the short term with this plan, the little guy gets a few extra bucks from those without tickets attracted to the free fun. It’s a loss-leader for the Cubs – some early good will with the neighborhood that has made money for years selling something they don’t own or pay for.

Long term, the Cubs will push them out, as is their right, if not their responsibility to fans who want them to invest in winning the World Series.

Gus Isaacson is the executive director of the Central Lakeview Merchants Association. He told the Sun Times “If 500 Cubs fans come to the street fair who would not otherwise have been here, maybe then I would support it. But, if we’re going to split the pie with the same number of people, then I have brick-and-mortar stores that need the business. This could take away from them.”

Of course it could. That’s the whole idea.

 Bernstein: Wrigleyville Wary Of Cubs Party Plan
Dan Bernstein has been the co-host of “Boers and Bernstein” since 1999. He joined the station as a reporter/anchor in 1995. The Boers and Bernstein Show airs every weekday from 1PM to 6PM on The Score, 670AM. Read more of Bernstein’s blogs here.
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  • Mike in Milwaukee

    Dan, I have some more picks for you

  • Pulseczar

    Wrigley Field is a crumbling dump and is holding the Cubs back.

    If Yankee Stadium can be torn down, why are we (rhetorically) holding on to Wrigley? Tradition? Please. If anything- the place is a gleaming reminder of sustained futility.

    • Meatless Meatball

      Because A) Wrigley is among the biggest tourist traps in Chicago; and B) Chicago fans tend to be really, really stupid about their stadiums. There was a whole ridiculous backlash when there was talk of the Bears moving out of Soldier Field and into a lavish stadium where the Sears Center is now. Chicago fans in general (and I mean “fans” in the loosest sense of the term) tend to think of “tradition” as being the places they saw when they grew up. I hate the Yankees, but at least they recognize that the only “tradition” that matters is winning championships.

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        You got it MM.
        I lived in Manhattan for a number of years.
        Yankee tradition consists of 27 Championship World Series Banners.
        What stadium in which they are displayed is secondary.

  • Larry Horse’s Arse

    What, wary?
    Who could be wary of tens of thousands of people drinking until they are vomiting and/or fighting???

    Despite the old stereotypes, things are much more classy on the South Side.

    • Beverly Brewmaster

      That’s too funny… Clearly you’ve never been to First Base after a Sox game.

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        That’s true……we just go to US Cellblock and then go home.

      • bigtime sucker

        true, but the cell does offer churros, or at least they did the last time i was there, which was a long time ago, but you just don’t get rid of churros, the cell has much better food, and a safe and defined place to park, when i go to wrigley, there is a church over by depaul that i know of, park there, take the red line to wrigley and hope and “pray” that my car hasn’t been towed when i get back.

  • curt

    I know this is completely off topic, but I hope someone of some authority sees this, since this site is so difficult to navigate and find any info which might be of some help…..but why are we having difficulty with the podcasts again??? Missing hours, days old podcasts showing up later on…what is going on???

    • Larry Horse’s Arse

      Not at all off-topic….it’s an important topic.
      spoon thought yesterday that Travis the Score Chimp was now in charge of the pods, and I’m starting to think he is right.

  • Chris in Scottsdale

    So I was out yesterday so no B&B for me, but I do have this:

    Coffee’s for closers. Derrick Rose and Luol Deng (I can’t believe I’m saying that) get Lebron and Wade’s coffee.

    • bigtime sucker

      huh?

      • Murphs Upper-Lip

        I THINK he’s saying that Lebron and Wade don’t deserve their coffee anymore; give it to Derrick and Deng… I think…

    • bronzo

      Double HUH?

      • Chet Coppick

        Check out this film http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104348/ and you will understand the reference. We are not going to SPOON feed everything to you, ya know?

      • Murphs Upper-Lip

        Yeah, I guess that was my bad when I tried to help out deciphering Chris’ post. If you haven’t seen the movie “Glengarry Glen Ross” the “coffee” reference might not make sense. Trust me, though, an excellent quote…

  • Likquid Swordz

    As a Cubs fan, I absolutely hate going to Wrigley Field. Outside of seeing the grass and the vine covered walls, the rest of the place could spoantaneously combust and I wouldn’[t shed a tear. The Cubs need a baseball stadium. Out of Wrigleyville, and accessible by an expressway/tollway and public transportation. You dont really get the expressway part these days and the public trans part is an adventure with the drunken idiots climbing on the EL.

    As far as US Cell, I love going there, but as a black man I am NOT walking anywhere near Bridgeport without 2 buddies with me. I know better than that.

    • Larry Horse’s Arse

      A sincere thanks for that insight LS.
      I have never considered that reality.
      Wrigleyville seems about as diverse as Notre Dame, but at least it’s safe.

      • Likquid Swordz

        Now dont get me wrong, the citizens of Bridgeport may be a better group than past residents, but I’m not willing to be a daredevil and find out if that’s true.

        As far as Notre Dame, I’ve never been there so I cant comment. But Wrigleyville in my opinion is as repulsive due to the drunkeness, public urination, and the seemingly ever-present air of @sshat-ism

      • bigtime sucker

        wrigleyville safe? maybe for day games, i wouldn’t take my kids to a night game though

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        I have not been to a night game since August of the Mac/Sammy year (what was that 1998?). And in August, the night game was damn near all daylight or dusk anyway.

      • Spoon

        I’ve been to Wrigley many times, at no point did I ever consider my safety in question. Day or night. Sanity, maybe.

      • Jaimie in Hoffman Estates

        Im with spoon, i feel very safe at Wrigley, i take my 5 year old son, to day and night games. I have never taken him to the Cell, i dont think i will till he is older.

    • bronzo

      Swordz…you have nothing to fear it’s not like it used to be around there at all,. I’m being very honest it is not…like I said below there are idiots ervywhere you go. I live in Beverly area nearby yes there is a difference…plus there are CPD on every corner.

      I would hope we are past the Lenard Cark stuff…Come down and enjoy a game.

      • Likquid Swordz

        If I can move back to the area this year I know I’ll make an appearance down there.

  • Larry Horse’s Arse

    Happy PACZKI DAY.

    I’m not even Polish but I love to scarf down those de-lish Paczkis.

    • bronzo

      That’s funny you mention that a guy brought a box of those in the office today they were delicious.

      I haven’t been to a Cubs game in a while so it’s hard for me to comment…I go to numerous Sox games every year both with buddies and my fmaily. I have 2 girls 11 and 9 and I never hesiatate to bring them. or my wife . we even will tailgate somethimes . are there a few knuckleheads evrey once in awhile …yes but Ive never had a problem at the Cell.

    • Spoon

      Been eating em for 2 days… I had lost 40 lbs, I think I gained 5 back in the last 48 hours.

  • bronzo

    make that family not fmaily

  • Harry Teinowitz

    Can someone give me a ride to work today?

    • Larry Horse’s Arse

      Consider renting a horse.

  • Mike Murphy

    Listen to you people, tear down a monument known as Wrigley? Murph says you should be ashamed at yourself, I say ashamed, I used to be a die hard bleacher bum, that’s like tearing down the Vatican in Jerusalem. Hey, I’m going to pencil you all down for ‘Tool of the Week’

    • Tim Allen

      You’re a tool and I know tools.

    • Larry Horse’s Arse

      LOL.
      Murph, I had to spit a mouthful of coffee back into my cup.

      • Chet Coppick

        Larry;
        We know that wasn’t coffee in your mouth, right?
        -cp

    • Likquid Swordz

      Did the Vatican take its talents to eastern Israel?

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        That’s what made me spit my coffee…..that was so effin funny…Murph would be so sincere and passionate in his stupidity.

      • bronzo

        Didn’t you hear? Israel recently invaded Italy….and the Mossad are now the new Vatican guard.

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        Now here’s where we neet Chet to make a crack about m.o.n.e.y.

      • Chet Coppick

        You’re words not mine(this time) Horse.

  • meesohawnee

    Alderman Tom Tunney isn’t so sure. “We have to have a real serious sitdown,”
    which is basically transated as.. “just put the money in the billfold b i t c h e z”

    • Larry Horse’s Arse

      Benjamin Franklins, sir???

  • mad as hell fan..

    Talk about making something out of nothing. This will only be a bad idea during Sox weekend for obvious reasons. Cubs/Cards fans have a pretty respectful rivalry and the Yankees weekend there would be no problems. The Sox weekend, well that could potentially be a problem.

    I

    • Spoon

      Yah, I dont get what the big deal is. I’d guess 90% of the people that would show up to a street fair next to the stadium, are the same people that would have been wandering the area anyway. Seems all they’d be doing is attempting to funnel them into a specfic area, rather than having them wandering all about. It’s Bernstien though, anything the Cubs propose he takes the same angle on.

  • Pulseczar

    DB isn’t allowed a thought on the Cubs lest he be labeled a Cub hater by the people who (wrongly) claim all he does is rip on the Cubs.

    • Spoon

      Yet not a single person has stated that.

      • Pulseczar

        Yet he has been accused of it countless times on here and on air.

      • Spoon

        Well people are stupid. Look how many times he’s been called a Cub fan. lol

    • Chet Coppick

      What are you, Danny Lawyer? Let Danny himself come on her and defend himself. Brownnoser

      -cc

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        Who knows, maybe he also went to Drake???

  • Larry Horse’s Arse

    I wonder if Jim Tressel sells game-worn sweater-vests???

    • Kev in Skokie

      He might trade you one for a tattoo across his chest.

      • Larry Horse’s Arse

        GREAT idea Kev…maybe a full-body red tattoo of a sweater-vest???

    • Jayboto

      No, he just trades them for tattoos.

  • James Steever

    So let us understand this— basically the Cubs want to provide their fans a tailgating party-type atmosphere (since there is not the typical sprawling parking lot space many suburban teams in all sports have)… and the Cubs therefore should be criticized for coming up with a terrific alternative? Hey, Berstein, why is a sin for the Cubs to make money? This is a privately held company who paid a handsome price for the brand which functions of the revenue driven in part from unique, engaging fan experiences which the Cubs, more than any other team in Chicago, develop and maximize returns of both financially and emotionally — and a sports writer has a problem with that success? Embarrassing reading Cubs rube reporters condemn the right to have a profitable and enjoyable business model that just happens to be a baseball team. As a lifelong die hard Cubs fan, what a refreshing feeling to have owners who are trying to do things for the fans that are “win and loss” proof. It hurts to have never seen a Cubs team win a Championship. The 125 year start-up line I read last year… perfect… new blood, new ideas, new ways to reinvigorate Wrigley… MORE MORE MORE

    • bronzo

      James, nice point but this has NOTHING to do with the fans… this is about making more money. Which is thei riite….But please don’t confuse this with making it about the fans…it is not.

      and yes I am a Sox fan so this view is admitedly biased.

      • Jayboto

        The equation is the same for all pro sports teams:

        Fans = Customers

        The terms are interchangeable at that level. It’s just that some organizations do a better job at managing the message when trying to extract dollars from their fans/customers (circle one). Even if they do master the spin game some day, The Cubs new ownership is bound to have some struggles and missteps along the way, because the previous ownership unabashedly sent the message to their base that the priority was cash extraction first and foremost.

        Pick any of your “fan friendly” organizations, and they count the money, too.

  • Mike in Milwaukee

    Ohio state, mark that team down in the tournament, I tell ya, that’s a pick. Horse you picking in the tourney?

    • Larry Horse’s Arse

      I’m going with Belmont as you touted yesterday evening on B&B.
      Thanks for the tip Mike.
      Bottoms Up!

  • Larry Horse’s Arse

    I see that U-Con just smoked DePaul in the Big East Toon-A-Mint.

    I hope that LoHo wasn’t silly enough to pack for more than 2 nights in NYC.

  • Jon, Montgomery

    i don’t see how rose is not MVP of the NBA this season. let’s look at the other candidates out there…

    dirk? NO. he’s missed a bunch of games, and even though he is the most important player for the mavs, they still have players like marion, kidd, terry & chandler who helped carry dallas when nowitzki was out, not valuable enough.

    lebron? NO. even though he’s still the best player in the NBA, his inability to make clutch shots and beat elite teams in putting a damper on his chances, not to mention whenever lebron gets tired, he has another superstar to lean on. not to mention he won’t get votes because he is the most hated player in the league. lebron would be 5th on my ballot.

    stoudemire? NO. early on, he looked like the favorite, but now that the knicks have carmelo, he certainly doesn’t have to carry the knicks anymore, besides, new york can barely stay at .500, you need to be a little better than 6th/7th in your conference to win MVP in my opinion.

    kobe? NO. early on, gasol was the real man carrying LA, and when kobe was being asked to make clutch shots, he was missing, he’s certainly having a down year by his standards, is he the most valuable player on his team? yes, but even if you take kobe off, i think they’d still make the playoffs. so kobe would be 4th on my ballot.

    durant? NO. he’s putting up great numbers, like we expected, but he’s just not doing as much for his team as i’d like, westbrook is really willing the thunder most times, where the thunder will finish in the west will ultimately decide whether durant is worthy or not, but right now he’d be 2nd on my ballot.

    howard? NO. is he the most dominant big man in the league? yes. is he the most valuable player to his team IN THE LEAGUE? yes! but ultimately, the magic will not finish with a good enough record for howard to get recognized, this man single-handedly carries the magic, and the talent around him sucks. but he’s just not going to win the award being 4th in the east. he’d be 3rd on my ballot

    rose? YES. this man is the best PG in the league, he is the reason the bulls where they are at with all of the injuries to other key players, great additude, he’s clutch, he’s been the most productive player in the NBA in my opinion, and he’s got his team to the 2nd spot in the east so far with a chance to win the east, and they’ve proven they can beat elite teams, rose lives up to the talk folks. and rose is the most valuable player to the bulls, he’s more valuable than noah and boozer, and if you take derrick off the bulls, i don’t think they would make the playoffs. rose is without a doubt the MVP of the league this year in my mind.

    my ballot:

    1. rose
    2. durant
    3. howard
    4. kobe
    5. lebron

    • bigtime sucker

      honerable mention to kevin love, i know he isn’t going to be voted for or anything but what he is doing on an individual level is quite astounding. He surpassed moses malone, but it’s the list of people that he passed or in another way of saying it, the list of people you think would have challenged for this is amazing.

      i mean look
      charles barkley
      karl malone
      kareem abdul jabaar
      shaq
      kevin mchale
      magic
      bird
      wilt
      hakeem
      pat ewing
      dwight howard
      lebron
      amare
      shall i go on? you would think 75% of these guys if not all of them would be able to get a double double EVERY NIGHT let alone 52 straight, so that tells me that it’s quite a feat. and by the way we aren’t talking 10 and 10, we are talking sometimes 20 and 20 and over 20 pts and about 16 rebs a game, very impressive. i think he should at least get all nba consideration, whether it’s first or second team is irrelevant

  • Jon, Montgomery

    also, a little love for the other MVP candidate from the UC, johnny toews! he and the hawks are going to try to match their franchise record 9 game winning streak tonight at the randy moller florida panthers! WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!

    seriously, if the hawks keep this up, i can’t see how toews is not in the MVP discussion, he is willing the hawks. i have endless admiration for toews, he is such a born leader.

    also, really pay attention to the red wings, because if the hawks stay this hot and the wings slip at all, the hawks could find themselves getting at least the 3rd seed in the west, as they’re only 6 points behind with THREE more meetings with detroit before the end of the season. LET’S GO HAWKS!

    • Murphs Upper-Lip

      Couldn’t agree more Jon; if the Indian can stay at the level, or close to it, Toews is the MVP. I noticed that over the weekend that the ‘Hawks still have three games with the ‘Wings — they’re slipping while Toews and company are coming on SO strong! Catch and surpass, that should lock up the MVP! KANER!!!

    • Beardy McWierdington

      Quit talking hockey

  • Murphs Upper-Lip

    Hey, missed Milwaukee Mikes call yesterday — IF the pod is working I’m gonna give that a listen; anyone remember about when he called in???

    • Jaimie in Hoffman Estates

      it was in the 5 o’clock hour

      • Murphs Upper-Lip

        Thanks Jaimie.

  • James Steever

    James, nice point but this has NOTHING to do with the fans… this is about making more money. Which is thei riite….But please don’t confuse this with making it about the fans…it is not.

    and yes I am a Sox fan so this view is admitedly biased.

    bronzo – I am a lifelong Cubs fan… IMO, this is ALL about fans… and if fans don’t congregate in this new area for nine games this year… the Cubs will simply STOP doing it. So many positives: does not hurt historical character of Wrigley, does not hurt traffic flow since Cubs fans know Sheffield is closed before every game… and it most importantly I assume it will provides a setting for families who can’t take their kids to Murphy’s, Bernie’s, etc. (bars) to enjoy interactive games this area will feature. The Fire have a similar area called Fire Fest for families pre-game at Toyota Park and it’s GREAT.

    This is ALL ABOUT FANS bronzo… Yes, even White Sox fans…

    • bigtime sucker

      ultimatly this will depend on execution

  • bigtime sucker

    also i don’t care, i don’t have tickets for anything this year

    again

  • puddin’ head

    remember Dan and all if the Bulls don’t win it all it is a lost season and means nothing

  • Murphs Upper-Lip

    Saw this definition in the Urban Dictionary, thought some of you might enjoy it.

    1. by cracky 44 up, 12 down

    buy by cracky mugs, tshirts and magnets
    A phrase said in a wheezing voice when a referenced person has some sort of facial hair, i.e. beard, moustache, goatee, soul patch, sideburns, etc.

    The phrase originated from a joke in 60′s and 70′s when women were a little less “well kept” down there than they are today. When looking at the woman from behind, pubic hair could be seen hanging between the woman’s legs. When informing your friends of the experience, you would tell them that she didn’t have a beard on her face, but BY CRACKY!
    I was talking to my buddy when he referenced Santa Claus in our conversation. I immediately shouted out, “By Cracky!” in a wheezy voice.

    • Larry Horse’s Arse

      Impressive, Uncle Terry made the Urban Dictionary, though without attribution.

      By the way M U-L, the Mike call is introduced as Mike from Kenosha (or Waukegan, I forget). I think it was right after the 5:30 Scoreboard update.

      • Murphs Upper-Lip

        Thanks LHA, surprisingly enough the 2 o’clock hour and the 5 o’clock hour are still missing from yesterday, but I’ll check back — appreciate your input.

  • sophist

    along with every hour from today.

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