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Reporting Bob Roberts
CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy industrial drain cleaners and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a log.
The law does not apply to most drain cleaners that consumers typically buy at grocery stores, but only to high-grade industrial cleaners that are normally only sold at hardware stores. Even so, it’s getting a rough reception from customers and merchants alike although perhaps none more than a cashier at Schroeder’s True Value Hardware in Lombard.
“They’re not very happy about it at all,” said Don Schroeder, one of the store’s owners. “One of the customers actually threatened the (cashier) and threatened to throw the acid on her.”
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Although the customer did not make good on the threat, and no one called police, other employees of Schroeder’s said they would call police immediately if any similar threat is made.
The law, which took effect Sunday, requires those who seek to buy caustic or noxious substances, except for batteries, to provide government-issued photo identification that shows their name and date of birth. The cashier then must log the name and address, the date and time of the purchase, the type of product, the brand and even the net weight.
Schroeder said that when he called his local legislator, the legislator claimed not to know about the new law. Neither, he said, did other retailers in the area. He said he and other store personnel had to call to a number of stores before they could get details.
Non-compliance results in fines: $150 for the first offense, $500 for the second and up to $1,500 for the third and subsequent violations.
Schroeder estimated that there are “easily” 30 or more products in the store that must be reported when sold.
Jewel-Osco has removed the few items it carried from its shelves, but Schroeder said he does not have that option as a hardware store. He said he does not believe that the precautions written into the bill will prevent such crimes from occurring.
“How are they going to find out, by asking every customer, what kid might have done that? It’s not going to solve any problems,” Schroeder said. “It’s not going to cure anything.”
440 Comments
Just another revenue siphon. There is no way to monitor or strictly enforce this. Jack Franks should explain how the contents of the product can be absolutely linked to the purchasor. What an idiot.
January 5, 2012 at 7:41 pm
If you want to see this silly law repealed, sign the petition at:
http://www.change.org/petitions/state-of-illinois-legislature-repeal-the-act-restricting-drain-cleaner-and-caustic-chemical-purchases?share_id=TjZoPIlyOG&
January 8, 2012 at 10:47 pm
So what next someone gets beat to death with a baseball bat are they going to regeister them like handguns. there is always a criminal element in any soceity besides if the police questioned someone or tried to make them account for not having all that they purchased oh yea i poored drain cleaner down a drain to unclog it makes me verry disapointed in the Ill politicians
January 11, 2012 at 5:26 am
Our brilliant Illinois legislators hard at work wasting your taxpayer dollars.
January 5, 2012 at 7:45 pm
BUT YOU CAN VOTE FOR OBAMA NEXT NOVEMBER AND NOT HAVE TO PRODUCE I.D THAT SAYS YOU CAN VOTE AND ARE A LEGAL CITIZEN
January 5, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Not sure about you, but I had to produce photo ID to vote….
January 5, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Most states you don’t have to have any proof of your identity besides a piece of mail. States that are making it law to have an official photo ID required to vote are being taken to court by the Department of (in)Justice.
January 6, 2012 at 12:40 pm
And yet, where is Eric Holder’s lawsuit against the state of Illinois over this law. Does this not descriminate against minorities who may not have a state-issued ID?
Surely Mr. Holder isn’t fighting photo-ID requirements for voting for completely different reasons, and using the discrimination arguement as a smoke-screen. He’d never do that.
January 6, 2012 at 1:50 pm
I’ve been voting in Chicago for 22 years. Never…not once…have I had to produce a valid govt issued ID to vote. In fact, I haven’t had to produce any kind of confirmation of my identity or my residence. No, I simply have to sign in, take my ballot, vote and drop it in the box on my way out. Of course, I always take my ID, my voter registration card and a utility bill…just in case.
January 6, 2012 at 10:27 pm
I too have voting in Illinois for 22 year…I’ve had to produce one every time I’ve voted in Illinois., granted I’ve never lived in Chicago where the rumour is that even the dead vote.
Rock Island…Springfield…and now Naperville.
January 6, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Next the State will issue DROID (DRain Opener ID) Cards.
What a stupid law. It is time to flush everyone out of Springfield
January 5, 2012 at 9:07 pm
State Representative Jack Franks had a knee jerk reaction to a horrific crime. These substances are used very commonly and tracing them will be impossible. From what I recall, a couple of morons who used acid to attack a woman on the street were apprehended and prosecuted. So exactly what is this law going to accomplish except bothering home owners who have long hair and clogged drains?
January 5, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Simple, it sets one more infringement that the people will slowly accept… then another will come then another and another and before you know it you won’t be able to leave your house without your papers.
January 6, 2012 at 1:03 pm
And if you do leave, the surveillance cams will watch where you go, who you meet, what you buy. Orwell was right, just off by a couple of years.
January 6, 2012 at 8:19 pm
…paid for with (formerly) your money.
January 6, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Fortunately we can stop it all right now! All we have to do is say NO! Won’t sell me bleach without an ID? NO, I will not show you my ID! They don’t sell you the bleach, but then they have to have someone put it back, and they will lose the money you would have paid them for it. Keep doing it, and encourage others to do it until the Nazi-collaborators let you buy bleach and other products without ID!!!
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 12:24 pm
After reading the NDAA….and seeing no outburst or indignation by the people then you are right….this too will be accepted quietly and so will the next and the next…..a definite slave country with people who slavishly accept laws that have no real benefit to them. Glad I’m not a USr…but I won’t be surprised if it gets up here considering the PM we have who slavishly follows your Pres. Orwell has finally arrived.
January 8, 2012 at 11:52 am
It is going to cost businesses a bunch of money to comply with this useless law. Is there now an age limit on who can buy drain cleaner? Great governor you have there that would sign such an asinine piece of legislation. No surprise this is Obamamas home.
January 7, 2012 at 8:16 am
Maybe SR Franks should have all the wedding registries monitored by the State of Illinois if cutlery is requested since stabbings occur. This makes about as much sense as the law regarding the drain cleaner
January 5, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Dont they make meth with that stuff?
January 5, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Yes-chemical drain openers are among the most toxic chemicals on the shelves of grocery stores and hardware stores. They are used in meth production and 85,000 children a year are seriously injured from these types of household substances. They are dangerous, but the good news is there are completely safe alternatives including a product I recently discovered on the shelves of Home Depot. Plumb Away is a great alternative, it’s environmentally friendly, cheaper and will not harm your children if they happen to find it.
January 6, 2012 at 1:40 pm
It also doesn’t work.
Most “real” drain cleaners are merely a strong base, such as sodium hydroxide.
“Yes-chemical drain openers are among the most toxic chemicals on the shelves”
Toxic to what? This chemical is quite common and used in a many useful applications. Such as: hair straightener, fruit cleaner, soap manufacturing, degreaser, making biodiesel, making paper, and as a ph modifier in drilling fluids for oil wells. And many many more important applications.
Almost everything is toxic to something else. I assume you would like to ban vinegar? How about lemon juice – a very scary acid!
Don’t be a fear monger!
January 6, 2012 at 8:45 pm
“…85,000 children a year are seriously injured from these types of household substances”
Got a source for that? 85,000 seems just a little bit high.
If you spread the total out, it comes to just short of 1500 for each of the 57 states.
January 8, 2012 at 10:55 am
let’s ban stupid people from having kids…..I ment to say lets ban sharps sticks because millions of children a year poke their eyes out according to a government survey of a 4 year old. We can not ban everything that is dangerious, how would you ban Democrats, or for the most part any politcian? Think of everything we must outlaw according to this thought process, roller skates, cars, stairs, broccoli.. (most kids think its poision), no more coffee tables with sharp corners, hardwood floors with socks on, and don’t even think about having elastic waist bands in underware. (wegies) NOTHING is CHILD SAFE
January 9, 2012 at 4:52 pm
How refreshing, an O-bot who’s sanguine about more statis intrusive government regulation and intrusion into normal people’s lives.
Hey Mike Martin, do you run with scissors in your hands? Speed when driving? Tear off the “DO NOT REMOVE” tags from your mattress? I thought not.
You need to stay inside, where you are safe from the Real World, and O’Barry can keep you bubble-wrapped from danger.
January 10, 2012 at 6:47 pm
They probably use water to make meth too – perhaps that should be licensed too?
Horseback riding and horses are very dangerous perhaps they should be out right outlawed. Especially in the peoples republic of IL.
January 10, 2012 at 6:51 pm
But I don’t think curtailing the availability of drain cleaner in one state would do much to stop the illicit manufacture of hard drugs. Or reduce violent crime. Do you?
January 8, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Lets hope no one figures out what gasoline and a match can do.
January 5, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Don’t give them any ideas. Gas is already expensive enough!
January 6, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Sss
hhh!!!
January 6, 2012 at 1:53 pm
It’s just the beginning of the year but I think we’ve already found the most stupid government action for 2012. And of course, it’s the state of Illinois.
January 5, 2012 at 10:27 pm
It’s just not that f-up Franks, it’s all the other SOBs (including Quinn who signed it) that made this a law. So instead of draino, now these psychos will use lighter fluid. You think a no spray paint ban helped Chgo? The wasteoids then used acid or just etched up windows.
January 5, 2012 at 11:25 pm
The politicians in Springfield can’t solve the states real problems so they spend their time writing stupid laws . This is not only an inconvenience for the shopper, it is a bigger burden for the business that must now keep records of those sales.
January 6, 2012 at 12:41 am
That ranks up there with banning spray paint to stop the taggers. Nice move, morons.
January 6, 2012 at 5:22 am
FYI Its an ACE Hardware not a True Value people..and its one of the best around
January 6, 2012 at 9:58 am
Well I know what I’ll be selling on eBay next. 10% off for Illinois residents too!
January 6, 2012 at 10:37 am
Man, those dudes down there in Springfield really don’t have anything to do but create asinine laws and regulations. Maybe we should vote all of them out and get a new crop of idiots in the General Assembly.
January 6, 2012 at 11:27 am
Just like the donkeys to come up with this, and at the same time, don’t want ID requirements to vote. The donkeys have lost all credibilty. They actually say such stupid things, then expect us to fall for it. They cry “wolf” so oftern (racism), that they lose their punch. The only way they win next election cycle is to CHEAT.
January 6, 2012 at 12:15 pm
End eye knat tipe wurth beens.
January 6, 2012 at 12:16 pm
So, lemmee get this right, just so I can understand it.
Democrats want a law to force us to show a photo ID to buy drain cleaner, but oppose a law to require a photo ID to vote?
Beam me up, Scotty. There is absolutely NO intelligent life down here.
January 6, 2012 at 12:18 pm
This places an outrageous, intolerable – even racist – burden on minorities with clogged drains. As we know, they have a MUCH harder time procuring an official photo ID. Why, this law is a new type of Jim Crow-ism, trying to deny minorities the self-help plumbing solutions enjoyed by whites, and force them to pay for an expensive visit from a plumber – and, probably a white plumber!
January 6, 2012 at 1:00 pm
A White Union Plumber
January 6, 2012 at 1:29 pm
asking legal americans for proof of citizenship but if you ask an illegal alien for proof of citizenship it is against the law.
January 6, 2012 at 12:18 pm
This is gun-control mentality: ban the object, not the criminal. This shows just how stupid gun control is.
January 6, 2012 at 12:18 pm
That’s exactly what I thought of when I read this: It seems to me that this evolved directly from the “ban/regulate/criminalize gun possession because sometimes bad people use guns in the commission of crimes” mindset.
January 6, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Oh, sure, someone who wants to throw acid in someone’s face is going to jump through these kind of hoops to buy it from a store. But God forbid you are asked to show photo ID to cast a ballot in an election.
January 6, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Politicians are degenerates that are paid with your wealth, extracted through taxation, with the threat of deadly force if you don’t pay their salaries. They are thugs in suits with a flag and paperwork. Government is the gang.
http://911essentials.com
January 6, 2012 at 12:21 pm
But the same Dems don’t want you to have to show a photo ID to vote??????
January 6, 2012 at 12:23 pm
This is a racist law. Everyone knows that blacks and poor people don’t have identification.
January 6, 2012 at 12:24 pm
I guess they can’t unclog their toilets using chemicals then
January 6, 2012 at 12:45 pm
The purpose of these asinine laws that needlessly burden businesses and innocent consumers is to 1) prevent general prosperity by making the US an annoying place to do business and to 2) raise revenue for mafia government types because they know that people will get lax about keeping records that serve no real purpose.
January 6, 2012 at 12:26 pm
As I see it you are WRONG! The business end is where you use these bs laws to HURT your enemy! This is a big enough pita (pain in the a##) to get people angry enough to protest, and if you think this bs will end with bleach you are MISTAKEN! This is the slippery slope we gun owners talk about when new regs are put into place that confine your choices of firearms, increase the paperwork you have to fill out, etc, etc, etc! The only way to make this stop is to say NO!
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 12:48 pm
It is against our civil rights to require an ID to vote then this is most certainly also against our rights…………
January 6, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Yet these same liberal-leftist, fascist commies that want a photo ID and a government watch list to buy basically any harsh chemical product now, are the same ones that are fighting requiring a photo ID to vote for the most powerful office in the world.
Yep that’s logic in any socialist dictatorship, third-world, banana republic.
Welcome to Obamaland.
January 6, 2012 at 12:39 pm
But,but this law discriminates against poor blacks and minorities,not only will they not be able to vote, but they will have to go some where else besides home to take a dump.
January 6, 2012 at 12:42 pm
I am going to funk Franks in the butt with a drain pipe.
January 6, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Real nice you big jerk. He just wants to help! Geeez.
January 6, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Help? Surely you’re teasing us.
January 6, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Happysunshine? Isn’t that the name of an LSD variety? “He just wants to help?” My word, you are off in the ozone. It’s people like you who vote these lunatic morons in office to begin with. Let me guess — you have an “Obama 2012″ tatto that was paid for with money other people earned.
January 7, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I see my plumbers’ union still holds sway…
January 6, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Yup, and they probably want the “log” so they can go to the homes of all Draino purchasers to kneecap them for their insolence.
January 7, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Another typical knee-jerk progressive reaction resulting in yet more unnecessary and burdensome law, that in reality is also useless. What next if something is used in a crime; the list could get quite long eventually. In the mean time, they say asking for ID to vote is an abuse of rights and/or discrimination against the poor, but needed if you have a plugged-up drain.. how ironic.
January 6, 2012 at 12:45 pm
WE CAN IMPORT IT FROM INDIANA OR WISCONSIN ….
January 6, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Why would anybody live in that state?
January 6, 2012 at 12:59 pm
beer in the taverns is cheap
January 6, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Beer ain’t cheap in liberal-progressive-communist Chicago. I paid $8 a glass for “Old Style” (the cheapest beer they had) the last time I was there.
January 7, 2012 at 5:27 pm
I bet this clown that passed this law is a Democrat. they scream about needing ID to vote, and we all know why, but they make you show ID to buy something to unclog your toilet. Leave it to the Democrats.
January 6, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Toxic Chemical Drain Openers like Draino accidentally kills and terribly maims thousands of children every year. Chemical Drain Openers should be outlawed on that basis alone.
I found a great product called Plumb Away for our house. Child Safe, Extremely Effective and much Cheaper to use.
January 6, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Maybe if you watched your kids this would not happen.
January 6, 2012 at 1:11 pm
I’ve also found that being a decent parent, monitoring your children, not letting them near drain cleaner, and teaching them right from wrong is effective.
But yeah, since some people are too lazy to be good parents, let’s outlaw everything that might possibly harm them.
Let’s start with water. There were a lot more deaths due to drowning last year than drain cleaner attacks. ID cards for any purchase of water please!
January 6, 2012 at 4:43 pm
let’s ban stupid people from having kids…..I ment to say lets ban sharps sticks because millions of children a year poke their eyes out according to a government survey of a 4 year old. We can not ban everything that is dangerious, how would you ban Democrats, or for the most part any politcian? Think of everything we must outlaw according to this thought process, roller skates, cars, stairs, broccoli.. (most kids think its poision), no more coffee tables with sharp corners, hardwood floors with socks on, and don’t even think about having elastic waist bands in underware. (wegies) NOTHING is CHILD SAFE
January 9, 2012 at 4:29 pm
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This has nothing to do with someone getting a chemical burn. This has everything to do with the fact that most of these materials can be used to assemble rather crude (yet effective) bombs which are within the reach and grasp of most normal people. Turn to hexamine and pentaerythritol I guess… that’s easy enough to use and very hard to control effectively. The main thing, of course, is that the now controlled substances were very easy to obtain locally… hexamine is available at any camping store and is a wickedly fun thing to use.
January 6, 2012 at 1:05 pm
I’m not going to debate your claims, I have no knowledge of the machinations of “bomb making”. However, the integrity of the election process mandates that it be free from fraud. Therefore voter I.D. should be the law of the land. Democrats demean the intelligence of minorities when they claim they would be “disenfranchised” by such a law. Do they believe Caucasians alone are capable of filling out the application. The soft racism of lower expectations.
January 6, 2012 at 1:31 pm
OBAMA DONT BE WANTIN HIS BRUTHAS TO HAVE A I.D. TO VOTE FOR HIM IN NOVEMBER,BECAUSE THEN THEY CANNOT VOTE MORE THAN ONCE OR GIVE A GRAVE STONE NAME IF THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN I.D. TO VOTE
January 6, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Finally!!! SOMEONE WHO GETS IT!!!!! HA! I never thought I’d find someone on this board smart enough to see through the miasma of bs to the core of this issue! This to me is all part of that slippery slope that damn near wiped Judaism off the face of the earth! We can still stop it, but we must stand up and say NO!
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 12:55 pm
We’ve got some stupid laws like this in Indiana as well. They want to see my ID to buy spray paint, etc. I don’t participate and here’s what I do. I put exact change counter or don’t ask for my change, pick the item up and walk out. They can’t charge me with theft, I paid what was rang up or a little more. I do it all the time. I had a cashier flag down security in Wal Mart over 2 cans of spray paint worth $5.50 when I dropped a 5 and a 1 on the counter and walked out. He wanted to accuse me of theft because I didn’t show ID to purchase. I pointed out to him, and now the store manager at this point, that not showing my ID did not constitute theft and I actually paid them $0.50 more. He threatened to call the police and I requested him to do so, perhaps they could get my $0.50 back. Security and the manager decided to drop it. Since then I’ve done it several times and have had no problems. Don’t play the game. Pay and walk out.
January 6, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Whaaat??!?! You have to sign for spray paint in Indiana?? I have live in Indiana all my life and have never had to showed ID for spray paint. Never been asked either. I bought some just last month. Maybe you live in one of the big liberal cities in Indiana?? Where I live in Indiana you can get anything you want in a store. The most I have ever been asked; “Cash or credit?” lol
January 6, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Thank you for saying NO!!!!!! I’d like to see 300 MILLION+ Americans follow your example!!!!!
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 12:57 pm
How racist! It’s time to get Holder there to sue the state so they are not able to continue this racist law. Don’t they know the poor and minorities be prohibited from their right to purchase drain cleaner.
January 6, 2012 at 1:07 pm
what are they going to drink if they can’t buy this stuff?
January 6, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Great you need a photo ID to get drain cleaner BUT NOT TO VOTE
January 6, 2012 at 1:09 pm
No ID needed to clog the government with crooks. ID needed to unclog your toilet. Welcome to bizarro-America.
January 6, 2012 at 1:12 pm
first guns, then sinus medication, and now drain cleaner. liberalism is a mental disorder.
January 6, 2012 at 1:14 pm
I SEE. a PHOTO id FOR DRAIN CLEANER BUT ANYBODY, EVEN DEAD PEOPLE, CAN VOTE WITHOUT SHOWING AN id ACCORDING TO hOLDER. sOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE.
January 6, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Holders name is n it. Enough said
January 6, 2012 at 1:51 pm
No doubt doing their best to defend their hometown clog in the White House plumbing.
January 6, 2012 at 1:20 pm
The march against the disenfranchised continues on. Not only will they not be able to vote without ID’s, but their drains will remain forever clogged restricting access to needed healthy water and sewage services.
attorney Genera Holder should get right on this and file a federal lawsuit to stop this abuse of the poor.
January 6, 2012 at 1:20 pm
It’s quite laughable. In a Democrat city, with a super majority population of Democrats., I.D. is required to buy DRAIN CLEANER. Yet , these same people, decry any effort to mandate I.D. in order to vote. Simply mind boggling!
January 6, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Boy I agree, say’s something about their mentality!
January 6, 2012 at 1:36 pm
No DRANO for the KNEE-GRO.
LOL!
Lets pack em all up in a boat and continue their return to Liberia!
January 6, 2012 at 1:22 pm
You know what is really funny about your statement, there is a lesser class of people being picked here, but it isn’t blacks. When they will let illegal aliens vote, but ask Americans for ID to buy bleach, spray-paint, whatever, it is the noose tightening around the neck of LEGAL, WHITE AMERICAN CITIZENS!!! And unless you get with it and start saying NO to it, the stool will be kicked out from under you, and we will be able to continue this conversation in a FEMA camp!
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Couldn’t they just go 30 minutes south to Indiana to get around this law?
Chicagoans already drive to Indiana buy gas, cigarettes and fireworks, and to smoke in casinos. Now if they want to splash acid on each other, they’ll buy their drain cleaner there too.
January 6, 2012 at 1:26 pm
What about the other 10millions citizens of Illinois? There are others besides Chicago…no matter what Chicago and Quinn think.
January 6, 2012 at 2:15 pm
If you live down state, the crook in Crook County don’t give a rat’s patooey about what you think. The reason, is that the down state democrats don’t line up like lemmings to vote for corrupt democrat politicians over and over again. In Crook County, they do.
January 7, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Does this apply to the mercury containing CFL light bulbs?
January 6, 2012 at 1:26 pm
They will require ID to buy drain cleaner but b!tch about having to show an ID to vote!
January 6, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Steve, you are right. ID to buy Drano but no ID needed to vote.
January 7, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Draino doesn’t scar people. People scar people.
January 6, 2012 at 1:33 pm
They require ID to buy drain cleaner, cold medicine, cigarettes, alcohol….but not to vote
January 6, 2012 at 1:35 pm
So let me get this straight I need an ID to buy cigarettes, alcohol, cough syrup, and now draino or to use a credit card, cash a check get on a plane etc. But no ID needed to vote for the president of the United States or any of the other yahoos in the senate and house that pass these laws. I think the democrats obsession with ID free elections shows you their true motives, it’s not about the poor people with no ID’s because we all know you need an ID for everything theses days. Its about vote fraud plain and simple, anyone who denies it is a liar or a fool.
January 6, 2012 at 1:37 pm
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This mindless nanny-statism is driving this country under. If this country were still composed of a freedom loving people Rep. Jack Franks and any like him would be thrown out of office, tarred and feathered and prohibited from ever holding public office again for even suggesting this or similar laws. God, how I miss growing up in the 60′s and 70′s before this “safety first at all costs’ mindset took over this country.
January 6, 2012 at 1:47 pm
I think tar and feathers would be too noble for that moron space-cadet ozone ranger Franks. How can anyone be stupid enough to vote for a drooling idiot like Franks? I can understand if it were Bridgeport. But Woodstock?
January 7, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Gun Laws = Draino Laws=Liberal Thinking Gone Wild
January 6, 2012 at 1:50 pm
The same LIBS that are always screaming, “Stay out of my BEDROOM!!!”, now want to get into my bathroom.
This law is an infringement on my fe(cal)productive rights.
January 6, 2012 at 1:56 pm
But Voter ID is illegal?
January 6, 2012 at 1:57 pm
I see, it’s okay to ask for ID when buying draino, but NOT okay to ask for ID when voting. Democrats, what a bunch of fricken moron hypocrites!
January 6, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Yet….Socialist Democrats…..argue against VOTER ID…..pathetic decay of America.
Home of the ‘Free’?
Land of the ‘Brave’?
NOT ANYMORE…….Eurotrash ideologies of Government Safety over Free Market Liberties IS the Democrat mantra.
January 6, 2012 at 2:03 pm
You need ID for drain cleaner but you don’t need it to vote. Is there something wrong here
January 6, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Anyone ever killed by a knife? Your state is friggin messed up. Mine’s bad, but dang…
January 6, 2012 at 2:10 pm
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Yup… you will need an ID to clean out a clogged drain but the Dems say we can’t require ID to vote!!!
I love it.. .the big brother, big Government Dimorats continue to destroy our freedoms.
January 6, 2012 at 2:23 pm
This is discriminating against minorities with clogges sinks. lol
January 6, 2012 at 2:36 pm
what about aspirin? its basically a caustic acid. can eat through human tissue. plus is deadly to kids. needs to be added to the list.
January 6, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Water is dangerous. You can drown in water. Maybe Woodstock Franks needs to require you to show a photo ID to take a drink of water. Ooops — if he reads this, that slack-jaw drooler probably will decide to do just that… but I doubt that anyone who would sponsor such a law can read… or tie their shoes… or blow their nose… or go to the bathroom without their mommy to hold their… well, you get the idea.
January 7, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Maybe its time to create a South and a North Illinois.
January 6, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Doesn’t this discriminate against minorities and poor people with clogged sinks, just like the voter ID law? LOL
January 6, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Seems that the Illinois reps went to the same law schools as the California reps – Creating useless Laws 101 – funny how they all are in the same political party, with the same progressive beliefs, and have the same funding sources and support in both states
January 6, 2012 at 2:36 pm
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January 6, 2012 at 2:36 pm
You keep voting Liberals into office and then complain when your state goes broke, your kids are enslaved by debt, and illegals can vote but you can’t buy cleaning products without ID. Amazing. Grow up and vote the bums out.
January 6, 2012 at 2:37 pm
What the hell can you expect from the state that gave us Barack Hussein Obama? They owe this whole county one heck of a big apology.
January 6, 2012 at 2:40 pm
This sounds like a racist law to me. It will hurt Blacks and other minorities who will have to show there ID to buy these products. Shame on the state for passing such a racist law!!!
January 6, 2012 at 2:42 pm
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This is another example of anarcho-tyranny, or anarchy for criminals and illegal aliens, and tyranny for law-abiding taxpayers. You can bet that no illegals will be refused these products–ID or not.
I also notice that there doesn’t seem to be any limit as far as the power the politicians want over our lives. What will have to happen in order for the politicians to say they have enough power over us now?
January 6, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Dude, this is another step on the march to Auschwitz!!! If you do not see that by now, you are still asleep!!!
“Those who do not learn history are damned to repeat it!”
Time to start using the most powerful word in any language: NO!
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January 7, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Drain cleaners are usually made with strong bases not acids.
January 6, 2012 at 2:48 pm
stupid new laws
January 6, 2012 at 2:50 pm
If you want this over-regulation to stop, vote for Ron Paul! Otherwise our liberties will slowly be taken away…
January 6, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Hell yeah! Although it won’t stop the regulation on the state level, it will free the states to regulate as they will with the Supreme Court as the arbiter of Constitutionality. Fortunately without the Fed unifying the regulatory influence of this country under one roof, the power of competition between the independent market-places within each state will force them to abandon regulations that hamper their businesses more than they benefit the public!!!
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 1:34 pm
ID should also be required to buy the products that turn the bowl water blue. That stuff is disturbing and scary.
January 6, 2012 at 2:59 pm
CHICAGO (CBS) – “A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a log.”
I do not see what the big deal is, just tell them your an ileagle alien and have no ID and off you go no problem, remember it is only citizens of the United States that have to meet these requirements.
Welcome to the Obama police state. You voted for the dumb SOB so, so you sew so shall you reap. And do not think the Obama cronies are not be this!
January 6, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Yeah that seems like a good idea. Disavow your citizenship (and your Constitutional rights) so you can buy drain-cleaner without having to show ID….. Glad to see how much being an American means to you….not!
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 1:41 pm
If you live in Chicago, or Illinois in general, you should LEAVE.
Rahm and the other democrats have promised trillion(s) to the SEIU thugs. As a wage-earner or property owner in Illinois YOU are the target to their constant money needs. GET OUT. GET OUT NOW.
January 6, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Amen brother, you are dead on right. The goal of unions and businesses is to take money from you and give it to them. Pure and simple. Businesses are an option, you do not have to buy one thing. Government unions are not an option, they allow only their choice.
January 7, 2012 at 4:12 pm
I work at a southern university in laboratory safety and labs are buying concentrated acids and other more hazardous stuff by the gallons without all this stuff that you have to do with Drano. Another law which supports more federal workers.
January 6, 2012 at 3:10 pm
More evidence that liberalism is a mental disorder which renders the afflicted incapable of understanding common sense.
January 6, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Dissolving hair clumps and nudging tightly packed poopie down the tube is a job for a Roto Rooter Czar with cabinet level authority. It’s an idea whose time has come. Do it for the children. If we could save just one. Doesn’t anyone care about the polar bears, for cripes sakes???????? Save the penguins! Collect the whole set!!!!!!
What a world, what a world. Drat you and your little dog! Woof, woof.
January 6, 2012 at 3:11 pm
I get the point but I think you are missing the bigger picture here. Certain regulations are good. They keep us safer at work, they keep our air and water cleaner, they ensure we get paid on time, and that we aren’t born into slavery due to debts accrued by our parents. What is going on with bleach is more a matter of taking the country away from you, than ensuring that companies aren’t dumping toxic waste on the site of a future playground. Just because it is being done under the guise of public safety doesn’t mean that face-value matches the under-lying agenda!
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Ignore the man behind the curtain. You are now promoted to Liberal Lemming Commander. Ensure that the other lemmings are all properly aligned. The cliff is just ahead. Ensure that as all leap from it, they chant “Obama 2012!”
January 7, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Soon they will require an ID to breath, fart or have sex. Whereas if you are an illegal you don’t have an ID…
January 6, 2012 at 3:12 pm
And the solution to all these problems will be presented to you by then…..an endo-dermal RFID!!!! Don’t you think you’ll be much safer when you can be tracked via satellite like an endangered species, or a prison inmate???
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Of course breathing will have to be regulated, you exhale carbon dioxide, causing global warming and methane gas destroyes the ozone causing global warming!
January 9, 2012 at 5:30 pm
You don’t need a photo ID to VOTE here in California. I wonder why that is?
January 6, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Hey Illinois! 10% sales tax and now photo ID to buy drain cleaner. You’re losing out to Amazon!
January 6, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Hey Illinois! 10% sales tax and now photo ID to buy drain cleaner. You’re losing out to Wisconsin!
January 6, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Clearly a case of Consumer disenfranchisement.
Poor saps can VOTE without government-issued photo identification, but they must get one to buy Drano?
Do the Liberal fools see the contradictions in their stand between VOTER ID and DRANO ID!
January 6, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Nope, they think Voter ID is a way to supress voter turnout, guess they are not worried about drain cleaner turnout
January 6, 2012 at 3:30 pm
The solution is to sell Draino at the voting stations. Also there should be a limit of one bottle per person.
No-one under age 18 being permitted to purchase or vote. :)
January 7, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Did you know that you can make a lethal weapon out of a candy cane by sucking on the end until it is a sharp point. And right now anyone from children to convicted felons can buy them without any ID or tracking procedures in place. We are all in great danger by the gross oversight by our lawmaker. EVERYONE call Pat Quin and your representative and demand that something be done about this before there is a blood bath…
January 6, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Bet you don’t need an ID to vote in IL???
Amazing, ID to buy drain cleaner, no ID to vote!!
January 6, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Law makers need to stop making laws which impede the citizens of this country from functioning normally. First cold medication now drain cleaner. Won’t be long before butter purchases will require an id lest someone try to grease the skids under the dolts who passed this law.
January 6, 2012 at 3:30 pm
WRONG!!! You and a few thousand of your friends need to descend on their offices and say NO! That is how you stop your lawmakers!!!
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 1:56 pm
You need a photo ID to buy Drano, but not to vote? Strange priorities coming from the land that foisted Obama upon the rest of us.
January 6, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Complete overreaction. If every time something bad happens using some product… heaven help us.. because we will need to show photo id for everything we purchase… EXCEPT we will not need to show one to VOTE because it would disenfranchise poor people….
January 6, 2012 at 3:35 pm
How does this stop one from using the acid to hurt someone else? And unless each bottle has some unique serial # that is logged, and then the crook leaves the bottle at the scene of the crime, how would the cops use this info to catch the perpetrator?
January 6, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Instant background checks and drain cleaner registration should be mandatory. Why should untrained citizens be allowed to take things in their own hands and purge their own turds when we have professionally trained and licensed plumber teams at our disposal? Dial 9#1and#2. Easy peasy. Eat your peas, but don’t mess with your poops!
January 6, 2012 at 4:10 pm
That’s racist!!
What if an elderly black woman needs to clean a hair plug out of her bath tub drain?
Where’s the Dept. of Justice?
January 6, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Look murder is against the law. Does that stop people from killing? Passing laws to stop actions of people who are criminals anyway doesn’t work. Criminals don’t obey laws.
January 6, 2012 at 3:39 pm
New laws don’t make us safer, new laws make new criminals!!!
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Now if they’d only make a f’n law requiring IDENTIFICATION TO VOTE.
January 6, 2012 at 3:42 pm
When drain cleaner is outlawed, only outlaws will have free-running drains.
January 6, 2012 at 3:47 pm
ROFLOL – sad but true
January 7, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Amazing how you have to show “government-issued photo identification that shows their name and date of birth.” for a cleaning product but not ot vote. Chicago and Illinois is such a garbage dump I hope it falls into Lake Michigan.
January 6, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Another stupid law, made by stupid politicians, who stupidly think they can stop criminals by putting ink on paper and calling it “The Law” what a bunch of idiots.
GlockG20 is right, the criminals don’t care and won’t ask permission or register. After all it’s only the Sheeple that follow this stupidity to the “Letter of the Law”
What are Sheep for again? Oh that’s right . . . TO BE FLEECED.
January 6, 2012 at 3:58 pm
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So what’s next? Baseball bats, golf clubs or how about a kitchen knife?
State Rep. Jack Franks is a degenerate moron and should be recalled and the law rescinded. He should be charged the cost of enacting this BS and also fined and shunned.
January 6, 2012 at 4:02 pm
More fascism pure and simple. Make up more “made up” laws and get willfully ignorant serfs to enforce them for the global elite bankers (who run this and ALL countries)
January 6, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Buy on line.. or go to IN they could use the tax dollars anyway.. The IL state lawmakers mindless.. than we vote them in to the WHITE HOUSE which makes us pretty dumb to..btw this one got by me or I could have stocked up with that to as well as inhalers .. light bulbs.. will buy a CASE next time I go to IN can sell at a quick profit…LOL..
January 6, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Typical liberal idiocy. Their “law” interferes with legitimate business, infringes on privacy, drives up the cost of doing business which means the cost of services and products increases for the consumer, and does absolutely zero to stop crime of any kind.
Using the “what they could do with freedom” theory of law creation for crime prevention, how about we put shackles on everybody? It’s rather hard to commit a crime if your wrists are tied together and strapped down to your waist prison style isn’t it.
The fact that it would impede innocent citizens and prevent all kinds of other legitimate actions has nothing whatsoever to do with the equation here in the warped liberal mind. After all the liberal mindset functions on the axiom that “the ends all always justify the means.”
A better response to the problem of crime would be to never elect a liberal again to public office and to throw them in prison where they belong as they are clearly a danger to society. More so even than the street criminals they enable and help.
January 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Chicago = Democrats = corruption = progressives = socialists = statists = nanny state = welfare = handouts = boy does Chicago deserve whatever it gets.
January 6, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Someone PLEASE tell Eric Holder about this racist law! Everyone KNOWS that photo ID laws discriminate against minorities, and I’m aghast that the state which launched Barack Obama’s political career would discriminate in such an odious way!
January 6, 2012 at 4:31 pm
The world, as brought to you by democRATS.
January 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Water has been used to drown people. I suggest that we card anyone trying to purchase anything containing water, water vapor, or otherwise containing any amount of Hydrogen or Oxygen, just to be safe.
Better yet, if we REALLY want to be safe, let’s just outlaw water in this fine state of ours all together.
January 6, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Well YOU people voted this idiot in and now he’s getting stupid laws passed that do nothing but make your life more complicated….vote him out and get the law recended
January 6, 2012 at 4:41 pm
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Drain cleaner is not an acid. It is a base (alkaline), the opposite, still dangerous if you get it on your skin. Maybe we should not only test for age but for chemistry knowledge as well. I bet the legislators don’t know the distinction either. Damn, are we ignorant.
You know, bleach and any other cleaning agent is bad for the eyes. Are those next?
January 6, 2012 at 4:45 pm
And just how will the poor, the elderly and minorities unstop their drains now? If they can’t afford or get access to obtain photo I.D.s to vote, how will they get them to unclog their drains? Call the ACLU, Acorn etc. This is discriminatory! Er… Racist! Er… something! Bush’s fault…
January 6, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Until the people of Chicago and Illinois WISE UP & grow a BACKBONE these Democratic THIEVES, THUGS and MISFITS will continue to steal and plunder.
Its up to the people of Chicago to TAKE BACK their city and their state otherwise they only deserve what they get!
Make no mistake about it……Obama is the ENEMY WITHIN!
January 6, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Y a need it to Purchase NYQUIL as well NOW..thanks to all those Teens and homemade Meth labs , and dope addicts… BUT amazing…Some Democrats dont want ya to have to show an I.D. when you VOTE..AMAZING isnt it???
January 6, 2012 at 5:08 pm
So in Obama’s corrupt, cesspool home it’s ok to require id to clean your barhroom but don’t you dare ask a voter for id…especially if they don’t speak English.
January 6, 2012 at 5:12 pm
to be fair…the people in favor of voter ID laws generally say they will provide free photo ID’s to people that can’t afford them. In this case people that can’t afford a Drano photo ID….all get a free plunger.
January 6, 2012 at 5:20 pm
This is absurd. Some state legislators need to find new jobs. Give these meddlers pink slips, every one.
January 6, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Illinoisans are too stupid to elect anyone different.
January 6, 2012 at 8:21 pm
So as a smoker, do I need to register and sign for any lighters or matches I buy?
January 6, 2012 at 5:38 pm
So after TWO people hurt by drain cleaner, we will all go through probably thousands of hours of gov red tape annually just to allow Illinois citizens to clean their drains. Meanwhile while 100′s if not 1000′s of people are cut/slashed/stabbed every year we don’t require ID to purchase any type of knife. This is the work of idiot politicians trying in vain to justify their bloated salaries. We need a third party to stop the Dem/Rep machines and their lock on our government. The laws get more and more asinine as time goes on.
January 6, 2012 at 5:44 pm
What is going on in Illinois ????? You’re going to replace the west coast land of fruits and nuts for WEIRDNESS !!!!!
January 6, 2012 at 6:21 pm
What next toilet plungers buybacks? Toilet paper tax? Have to put a tax stamp on each square you use?
This is insipid and vapid.
January 6, 2012 at 6:23 pm
What about all those poor blax walking around without an ID? They are the so-called reason we don’t need an ID to vote. So it’s OK for them to vote, but they can’t buy Drano? Some non-tribal organization needs to go after Franks for this (the ACLU certainly won’t go after one of their own). This “law” needs to be reversed pronto. If it isn’t, at least an amendment needs to be added so that it applies only to mehicanose.
January 6, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Number one reason why I am an independent. The Democrats beg for large government an silly laws like this but they have a cow if you ask for ID’s at the voting polls. They say it is not fair to ask for ID’s at the poles because poor people can’t afford it. What if poor people get a clog?
January 6, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Jack Franks,moron of the decade.
January 6, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Like your rights being whittled away like whittling a log to get a toothpick? Just keep voting for the type of politician that are in office now and you will be working for the man sooner than later.
May God have mercy on our feeble minds.
January 6, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I’d bet my lungs that both instances cited of men throwing acid on women were carried out by adherents of the religion of peace. It would solve a myriad of problems if we simply made IT illegal!
January 6, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Wow … and this was pushed by a DEMOCRAT … the same party that doesn’t want IDs for voting … does anyone see a trend …. this is amazing … and even worse … tax payer money contributed to the passage of this law ….
This law won’t stop criminals from attacking innocent people .. what’s next? Will my son need to produce a government ID when he buys a bat for little league??
January 6, 2012 at 6:53 pm
These incredible midget minds that spend their days trying to lock barn doors after the horses have all run away to Mexico have reached a new low in stupidity! Did it even occur to thses idiots that like people who switch from oranges to apples because orange prices rise the criminals will switch from Drano to oh say battery acid becuase the Drano gor more difficult and could be traced.
January 6, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Chicago is certainly an entirely different world … an alternative reality.. The place can now go down the drain … without chemicals…
Quo warranto, B.O.?
January 6, 2012 at 7:13 pm
We must immediately start giving fingerprints,retinal scan and RECTUM exam, every time we buy gasoline; after all is that not far more dangerous than drano.
There was a time in America, that a politician this stupid would have been dragged out into the street and Tarred and Feathered. I strongly suggest we revive this custom.
January 6, 2012 at 7:15 pm
So if someone stabs me in the eye with a pencil, there will be a state law requiring photo ID for pencils. What happens if someone smothers me with a pillow pet — will there be a new state law restricting that, too? I’m glad I don’t live in IL!
January 6, 2012 at 7:21 pm
But they don’t want an ID to vote
January 6, 2012 at 7:31 pm
This law is clearly an attempt to deny minorites of clean drains! Call Eric Holder ASAP!
January 6, 2012 at 7:33 pm
A photo ID to buy drain cleaner, but the democrats fight against a photo ID to vote. Riiiiiight.
January 6, 2012 at 7:33 pm
This law will affect colored folk, and not white people so much. Everyone thinks Obama is doing this but the black man is always the one to suffer.
January 6, 2012 at 7:52 pm
This racist! Now only white people will have clean drains.
January 6, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Imagine that…. we can’t get pass a law that requires people to show an ID when voting for our country’s president; but we can for buying chemicals from a retail store.
To all those who voted for the idiot State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock), please roll your right hand into a tight fist, and punch yourself in the face.
January 6, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Hi thank you for shopping at your local hardware store…
Your papers please
January 6, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Perfect example of just how stupid and out of control our “nanny state” government has become. To many laws to sort thru and fix………. How about we just repeal every law passed since 1965, and then limit the number of new ones each year to about 10.
January 6, 2012 at 8:12 pm
How about a law that says you can’t introduce hare-brained legislation without first having a brain scan?
January 6, 2012 at 8:17 pm
The people of Illinois are so stupid they keep re-electing these same morons over and over again.
January 6, 2012 at 8:17 pm
before there was mass thirld world immigration into this country, laws like this would be unthinkable. First kill the immigrants, then overthrow this fu*ked up govermnemt. Then we can live like norman americans again
January 6, 2012 at 8:19 pm
It’s a known fact that when you outlaw Draino, only outlaws will have Draino.
January 6, 2012 at 8:22 pm
This country is so F#cked-up! I wonder if this country is worth saving anymore. Damn sad.
January 6, 2012 at 8:24 pm
The big Draino smuggling rings in Indiana and Wisconsin are warming up their engines and here they come!
January 6, 2012 at 8:25 pm
It’s hilarious how Americans have become the most feminine nation in the world.
Get off your knees!
You’re making the French look positively masculine.
January 6, 2012 at 8:29 pm
French!? That’s a low blow. True, but low; and we girls take offense.
January 7, 2012 at 11:54 am
We ought to have a tea party. Only instead of dumping tea into Boston Harbor, we dump Draino into the gas tanks of every lunatic legislator that voted for this idiocy.
January 6, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Typical liberal solution. Punish everyone for the actions of a few.
January 6, 2012 at 8:47 pm
I’ve got Drano for sale…no questions asked. LOL
January 6, 2012 at 9:02 pm
i thought communistfornia was bad, now her sister state illnois has reared her ugly anti-AMERICAN head, oops-did i spell ill-in-noise wrong….ok who gives a rats a.. . MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA….
January 6, 2012 at 9:03 pm
I came to this supposed “Land of the Free” 20 years ago after living/working in Asia, Eut=rope and Africa. For over 15 years, I have been a proud American citizen.
I have bad news for those who still believe in that noble concept – over the past 20+ years I have watched as one rule, law and regulation after another eroded those freedoms and can now say that there are many other ountries where ordinary citizens are more free to get on with their daily lives.
Time to roll back the rot people.
January 6, 2012 at 9:08 pm
More and more this country is becoming a police and nanny state once you get into the country and yet they allow the thousand mile border to remain porous to anyone who wishes to enter without any control of who is coming in, it baffles the mind.
January 6, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Try this – everyone try to buy drain cleaner. When they ask for ID ask for the manager. When the manager comes ask for an explanation, and then politely decline to buy the product. Eventually the silly pols who passed this law will get the message and rescind it, money talks!
January 6, 2012 at 9:43 pm
What?? No seven-day waiting period for a background check before purchasing Drano?? This is an outrage! Who do these hooligans think they are, with this grotesque and appalling amount of freedom!?! What’s next, allowing our poor defenseless children under the age of 40 to purchase butter knives willy-nilly??
January 6, 2012 at 9:47 pm
More needless and stupid laws that punish law-abiding citizens and businesses. Law-makers who pass such silly laws need to be defeated and the laws rescinded.
January 6, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Then checking id at voting booths is obviously no problem.
Thanks Democrats of Woodstock IL!
You guys just painted yourselves into a corner…
January 6, 2012 at 9:52 pm
But a 12 year old who his repeatedly raped by her step father can get an abortion over and over again with no questions asked.
January 6, 2012 at 10:09 pm
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Liberal idiots electing liberal idiots…
January 6, 2012 at 10:14 pm
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And no huffing the floor cleaner!
January 6, 2012 at 10:53 pm
just buy it in indiana or wisconsin!
that will deprive illinois of sales tax too LOL
January 6, 2012 at 10:55 pm
If we use the same liberal rhetoric in this case, than the democrats who passed this bill want poor blacks in Chicago to get sickness and disease and die, because the poor people wont be able to clean their homes because they are “too poor” to have an ID to buy the cleaner… Ya that doesn’t make any sense does it. Neither does passing a law that requires ID “IN CHICAGO!” to buy cleaner when at the same time these people are calling conservatives racists for wanting people to show proof of ID when voting. What a Joke.
January 6, 2012 at 10:59 pm
You’re right, it’s really just a disgusting hypocrisy on every level. We’re so sick of government nannys and demagoguery about people who follow the constitution.
January 6, 2012 at 11:13 pm
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So what are we going to have to show ID and sign a log for, pencils??? Of course, all those accidents where they end up in someone’s eye!!!
January 6, 2012 at 11:08 pm
If the poor and minorities can afford an Id to purchase drain cleaner why can they not afford voter Ids?
Oh, I forgot. Voter Ids would prevent illegals, felons and the dead to vote for Democrats.
January 6, 2012 at 11:22 pm
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Well folks, we can’t by Nyquil here in California anymore. Has this country gone to hell or what?
January 7, 2012 at 12:16 am
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Since I’m from out of state, I guess I will list some for sale on eBay.
January 7, 2012 at 12:38 am
Drain cleaner is a form of lye. Lye can be easily produced by filtering water through wood ash. The water is then collected and allowed to evaporate. The white substance that is left is lye. I posted this to show idiot lawmakers that their “law” is both stupid and meaningless. Anyone with bad (or good) intentions can get any just about any item they want.
January 7, 2012 at 12:42 am
This stupid law is the reason why people need to visit http://www.fija.org . A fully informed juror will disregard any judge’s instruction when deciding upon a verdict for violating an unjust, unconstitutional, or stupid law such as this. It’s time for people to stand up to this kind of idiotic stuff.
January 7, 2012 at 12:47 am
Police State. But we all already know that, don’t we?
January 7, 2012 at 12:51 am
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I think it *should* require an I.D to acquire brain cleaner
January 7, 2012 at 2:45 am
Using the DEMONcrat’s “logic”, when will we have to show an ID to put gas in our cars? That will be coming soon. They just haven’t thought of it yet. “Only government employees are permitted to buy gasoline; all sheep must use public transportation.” Might as well be China.
January 7, 2012 at 2:59 am
““One of the customers actually threatened the (cashier) and threatened to throw the acid on her.”
Well, exactly the kind of person that doesn’t need to buying caustic substances.
January 7, 2012 at 3:14 am
Checking ID’s for voting purposes, and liberals will through a racist hissy fit. Check ID’s for household cleaning items? Sure, no problem. Where are all the crazy far-left loons who think requiring an ID for anything is racist?
January 7, 2012 at 3:21 am
>=0o How stupid! Next time they’ll just use gasoline.
January 7, 2012 at 4:23 am
State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago women, badly scarring them.
D-Woodstock explains it all.
January 7, 2012 at 6:01 am
How typical of politicians. Two bad incidents so they punish the millions of innocent people who are buying a legal product.
January 7, 2012 at 6:15 am
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In Newark Delaware in the Rite Aid across the street from City Hall I was carded because I wanted to buy a lighter. I’m over a half century in age.
January 7, 2012 at 6:55 am
Is cleaning your sink more dangerous than voting for raw sewage to clog up the WH and Capitol. You mist have ID to clean sink but not to vote as illegally and as often as possible.
Thats the Chicago Way.
January 7, 2012 at 6:56 am
But this will disenfranchise the poor……..everyone knows they can’t afford a photo ID!!!!!
January 7, 2012 at 7:05 am
When will the people of the PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF ILLINOIS stop electing these buffoons? You don’t need ID to vote, but to but drain cleaner? This is the same stupid people who bought you our Marxist and chief obama. Welcome to the police state of DEMOCRATIC Illinois. ALL DEMOCRATS ARE COMMUNISTS!
January 7, 2012 at 7:25 am
STOP SELLING to NIGEROIDS and SPICCKS!!!!
GIVE EXEMPTIONS to HUMANS!!!!!
January 7, 2012 at 7:52 am
… and just how will this ridiculous law actually PREVENT any further crimes using caustic substances?
January 7, 2012 at 7:58 am
Soon the liberal kneejerks will want your ID to purchase anything that could be dangerous – such as baseball bats, hockey sticks, and pool cues. Maybe even the purchase of gasoline for your vehicle. Yes, punish everyone for the crimes of a few.
January 7, 2012 at 8:05 am
Drain cleaner is lye, which is traditionally made of ashes and water. Anyone who makes soap at home knows this. Anyone who has access to ashes (woodstove owners, etc) can make it.
Next, will the government be requiring identification to buy water, which is one of the two main ingredients? LOL
January 7, 2012 at 8:18 am
Why do you have to show more picture ID to buy cough syrup and this, than to vote? Why is requiring picture ID to vote a mortal sin and voter suppression against the minorities and poor and not this?
January 7, 2012 at 8:22 am
Need ID to buy Draino in Chicagoland, but Dems still oppose a picture ID before voting.
January 7, 2012 at 8:23 am
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This type of mentality is 100% the product of the Democrat Liberal Nanny State mindset.
If you want to lose more and more freedom and be put more and more under the control of Leftists – continue to vote for Democrats.
January 7, 2012 at 8:25 am
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You mean you have to have an ID to buy caustic but you dont need to have one to be in this country or vote? Liberals are a sick bunch of whatever!!
January 7, 2012 at 8:38 am
you don’t need an Id or even proof of citizenship to vote but you need an Id to by a can of crano! How stupid is this?
January 7, 2012 at 8:39 am
Liberal democrats again. A Russian friend began laughing loudly when the words Freedom in America cam across the TV. He’s right though we’ve lost it to the one who believe they are the enlightened ones. The truly foolish. Progressive Liberals that democrats continue to support. Guns were made illegal in Chicago. How’s that working out for ya? drain cleaners don’t harm people, people harm people. HA LOL the FOOLS in charge!.
January 7, 2012 at 8:48 am
So, I must show photo ID for Draino, but it’s an infringement on my rights to show ID when I vote? Democrats suck.
January 7, 2012 at 8:58 am
Thsi will disenfranchise poor people and the elderly who don’t drive and who don’t have photo ID. I mean, isn’t that the argument against voter ID laws?
January 7, 2012 at 9:02 am
Why is it the democrats are against the same thing to vote? Memory does serve me right when I had to show ID at a walmart to buy flares one time.
I mean sure flares can start a fire if purchased by a minor but voting fraud can set a country ablaze and there isn’t much of an outcry from the left on that.
And in chicago to boot.
January 7, 2012 at 9:06 am
You people just don’t understand. The headline should actually say:
DRAIN CLEANER DISTRIBUTORS PUNISHED FOR FAILING TO GREASE ILLINOIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY
January 7, 2012 at 9:13 am
Well sure that’s True! But you know the guy who dreamed up this law?
He can use this on his RESUME when he decides to RUN for PRESIDENT after Barry loses….Actually that will give him more qualifications to be POTUS than Barry had when he started running…and you have to start somewhere to be POTUS.
January 7, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Hurry, outlaw rags, they can be used to stuff someone’s mouth and choke them to death!!!!
January 7, 2012 at 9:16 am
Stupid liberal democrat government.
January 7, 2012 at 9:24 am
This is little about preventing assaults (which happened ONCE) and much about incrementalism and making Americans comfortable with an over-bearing over-whelming government presence in their lives. Welcome to the world as shaped by Obama the left-wing fascist.
January 7, 2012 at 9:26 am
But you don’t need an ID to vote! Something is very wrong with this picture.
January 7, 2012 at 9:35 am
Keep voting for dumbocrats and you get what you deserve. Your state is going broke and they’re worrying about drain cleaners. The voters should use their ballots to drain the swamp of all those legislators that voted for this ridiculous law.
You are lucky that they did not use toilet paper to shove down the victims throats or else he would have introduced a bill banning toilet paper.
January 7, 2012 at 9:35 am
All y’all yelling..stupid Dems and other silly thoughts. What will you think of your rights if an extreme Right gets in and starts passing laws that ban things like gay marriage\civil unions, sex toys, IVF, and much of what the Right has traditionally been against?
January 7, 2012 at 10:27 am
But another excellent example of the dumbing down of academics over the past 35+ years. People cannot think, cannot read, cannot write, have little if any complex reasoning skills; they just go with whatever comes into their brain. Nevermind that this law is going to cost the state a bunch of money only to result in the frustration and inconvenience of merchants and customers alike. The State of Illinois is bouncing lottery checks and here is another costly government program in place that is destined to fail. Notice that politicians and judges scream bloody murder if someone calls for verification of residency by ID of those at the voting booth. Don’t even think about buying a bottle of Draino without ID. Wonder why this is???
January 7, 2012 at 9:40 am
So let me get this straight. You have to have a valid photo ID to buy drain cleaner thanks to a Democrat law maker, but they always seem to have a problem requiring a valid photo ID to vote.
January 7, 2012 at 9:45 am
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This isn’t about stopping crime. It’s about government intrusion into the lives of its citizens.
This will stop nothing illegal from happening, but will allow for them to teb closer tabs on us and what we’re doing.
If they operated on the up and up. If our government were really ours, they wouldn’t need such pathetic band aids for our system to function.
January 7, 2012 at 9:56 am
Where is the Department of`Justice and the ACLU when you need then? The DOJ and the ACLU argue that voter ID would disproportionately affected thousands of minority voters. Thus if this is the case thousands of minority will not only but stuck with stuffed up noses,(you need ID to buy Musinex – D, Sudafed and other products with ephedrine and pseudoephedrine in them.) now they must suffer stuffed up toilets. I guess if you think about it is makes sense. STUFFED UP TOILETS, STUFFED UP NOSES AND STUFFED UP BALLOT BOXES!
January 7, 2012 at 9:57 am
Illinois can’t pay their bills or fund the schools but boy can they past stupid laws – Rear passenger seat belts required, now need to show proof before buying drain cleaner! Is Illinois going to pay my expenses for the possible Identity Theft as my personal information sits on a clip board under the cash register desk? Oh thats right the state has no money as in BROKE. Now wonder so many people are moving out of the state
January 7, 2012 at 9:58 am
i can dissolve bones in soda. ID REQUIRED FOR ALL SODA PURCHASES! otherwise we all are going to start using it to dispose of bodies…
January 7, 2012 at 10:01 am
Send a comment to Rep. Franks, voice your opinion beyond the CBS comment board. I just sent mine!
http://www.franks4illinois.com/contact.html
January 7, 2012 at 10:14 am
This is what you get when you vote Democrat.
January 7, 2012 at 10:20 am
Just think of all those poor Disenfranchised folks that can’t buy drano to clear a clogged sink.
SHAME…Shame
Someone call the ACLU……
January 7, 2012 at 10:24 am
This is the sort of Ill-noise damnfoolery that happens when you keep electing damnfool liberal democrats (small “d” intentional). They and their pals in the envirowhacko green movement would happily force you to buy those expensive and poisonous Chinese-made mercury-laden CFL light bulbs WITHOUT SHOWING ANY ID, but now you have to show ID to buy drain cleaner?????
Wake up Illinois! It’s time to send the democrats who have used and abused you for decades to the unemployment line! Just do it, and enjoy the freedom that will be yours again.
January 7, 2012 at 10:29 am
U-T-T-E-R I-N-S-A-N-I-T-Y
You can vote for president without ID but you need ID to buy Drano?
INSANE INSANE INSANE INSANE
January 7, 2012 at 10:51 am
Unbelievable!!!! What is more unbelievable is that the people just keep letting them do it. Piling law, upon law, upon law on the heads of people.
Anyone aware of the Star Spangled Banner law that –
Then there is the Star Spangled Song law that an Indiana Republican Ms. Becker wants to pass. Among other things it would require this of schools -
> Schools would also be forced to maintain audio recordings of every single performance of the anthem, in case anyone complained. “I don’t think it would be very difficult for schools,” Becker said. “You could record it on a cellphone.”Though she would excuse some flats and sharps”
Without ID I can’t buy compressed air to clean my keyboard; cough medicine; spray paint, etc.
I’ve read posts that people blame Democrats….WAKE the heck up!! It is Republicans and Democrats doing it to us. Note I said to us….NOT FOR US!
January 7, 2012 at 10:58 am
So you have a problem being a proud America.
His proposal won’t pass and either way i am a Proud Hoosier AND AMERICAN so theres a problem with saying the Star Spangled Banner in respect to America?
Jesus go move to Mexico if you don’t like America.
January 8, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Moving to Mexico won’t help much, since Mexico is just as much a part of North America as the United States is.
January 8, 2012 at 9:34 pm
THis is outrageous discriminary!!!
Think of all those poor minorities who don’t have a license as the dems like this racist lawmaker claim to not have!
Basically he wants those poor people to be unable to unclog their drain.
I hope next time they vote without their license they will remember because of whom their bathroom is not working.
January 7, 2012 at 11:13 am
Just like a Lib-Dim to penalize the innocent for the acts of the criminals/? How absolutely stupid is that? So I suppose if some kids at school stab their classmates with a pencil we will have to show a photo ID have our name recorded in some government registry to purchase a pencil? Or perhaps someone throws hot water on another then we will need ID to buy bottled water? All the names on that ‘registry’, knowing how inept the government is, will probably end up on Homeland Security’s terrorist list! Lib-Dims will never understand that it’s the criminals who are doing the act which need control, not the object/substance they misuse! “Stupid is as stupid does!”
January 7, 2012 at 11:15 am
Imagine a law like this being passed in a Democrat stronghold like Chicago.
January 7, 2012 at 11:58 am
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An ID to buy drain cleaner, but can’t have an ID to vote?? Yeah, I see the sense in that alright.
Once again, the actions of the one, one incident, and we suddenly need a law to stop something. This is like ONE kid getting hurt on a playground, and all the kids suffer because they remove the equipment.
When did this happen to us? Why does it only take ONE incident, to stop everybody from ever doing something again??
(besides, like their stupid gun laws, this won’t work either. Gee, think I can go OUT OF STATE to buy some drain cleaner to toss on somebodyy?? IDIOTS!! You elect IDIOTS!!! STOP IT!!!
January 7, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Next we’ll have to give all our information just to buy pencils because someone got stabbed with a sharpened pencil. Why not? It’s along the same lines.
January 7, 2012 at 12:29 pm
This will disenfranchise all minorities with clogged pipes!!!!!
January 7, 2012 at 12:39 pm
This is me with my 50 caliber rifle. I killed two elephants with one shot with this one. And this is me with my 44 magnum handgun. I killed a charging gorilla with this one. This is me with my Mosin-Nagant 9130, the most productive sniper rifle of all time. Some Finn killed over 500 hundred Soviet soldiers in a three-month period with this one. Ah, but here’s my favorite: my trusty 24 oz can of Drano that I bought from an undercover ATF agent during Operation Fast and Furious. Unfortunately it was confiscated at a State Police checkpoint when I tried to bring it back into Illinois. I had intended to use it to clean out the sewers in Springfield so the legislature would have a place they could call home.
January 7, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Instead of taking ID from hardware-store customer, how about we just ship all the negros back to Africa? That would solve the problem, and many other problems as well.
January 7, 2012 at 1:15 pm
You poor bas***ds in Illinois get what you deserve for towing the line of unions and left wingers.
January 7, 2012 at 1:17 pm
I am sure eventually you will need to show ID to buy anything. First Illinois outlawed hand guns now they are tracking draino purchases.
Soon we can expect when we get home from the grocery store an agent will be at your door asking why you bought certain items and what will they be used for.
Eventually they will just arrest and lock up people who buy things without a good reason. The last step is to march us off into camps and euthanize us. All of this will come if we don’t wake up and defend our liberty.
January 7, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Wow, we live in a nanny state with a kindergarten control system in place getting worse all the time. Pretty soon, we won’t be able to buy a Bic lighter without 2 forms of ID and a note from your local representative! Where will the madness end?
January 7, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Too late, you have to show I.D. to buy a lighter in West Virginia! But you can get an abortion in Maryland with out an id, you just have to promise you are atleast 13.
January 9, 2012 at 6:06 pm
but i don’t need a picture ID (or any ID) to vote?? this is up there with STUPID!
January 7, 2012 at 1:59 pm
You have to be joshing? Really? What a moron. Okay, hundreds are cut, sliced, diced and even murdered with kitchen knives. No restrictions. But got to have a picture ID for drano? Sneak in from Venezuela to blow up the country on behalf of Chavez, okay. Stop and vote while you’re enroute to the bombing, okay. But you MUST have an ID to clean your kitchen IF you were born in the US. Kill efficiently with power tools? Okay. Buy gasoline and douse your neighbor? No problem. BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ID TO BUY DRAIN CLEANER?
Someone please fire this idiot and everyone that voted for the bill. Pretty please?
January 7, 2012 at 2:09 pm
If the stores really want to stop this they should just agree to ignore it. The cops can’t prosecute them all and the law would soon go away. Also, quit voting for Dems; especially stupid ones.
January 7, 2012 at 2:16 pm
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I’ll bet if you show your Union Card, you are exempt from logging your purchase
January 7, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Once AGAIN you can thank the crystal meth addicts for this one, just like with pseudophedrine.
January 7, 2012 at 2:18 pm
DID NOT Know crystal meth addicts were dumb enough to vote for such stupid politicans hahaha
January 9, 2012 at 6:13 pm
If this law is unopposed, they will inact strickter and stricker laws “for your own good” of course. Next thing you know you have lost you freedoms. Sad state of affairs. I only wish I could laugh and say it’s a Chicago thing, but it’s not.. EPA,OSHA, et al are nibbling away at our freedoms nationwide, eliminating millions of small business with regulations, and making criminals of millions more. THIS HAS TO BE STOPPED!!!
January 7, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Folks, you can buy Drano in Arizona without ID and then smuggle it into Chicago.
You can also get a forged store receipt to prove purchase.
January 7, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Urgent NOTICE…ALL Politicians will be EXEMPT from this law concerning Draino as with all other laws such as Obamacare…INSIDER Information TRADING…PAYING TAXES etc.
January 7, 2012 at 2:31 pm
What happens if you don’t have a picture ID? There’s no requirement (yet) for you to have one. I guess you have to put up with a clogged drain.
January 7, 2012 at 2:36 pm
They should outlaw water because people can drown. Cars, bicycles, and ditches kill people too.
January 7, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Let me see if I got this right, The Justice Department says the voter ID law discriminated against minority voters, using their thinking isn’t this discrimination?
January 7, 2012 at 2:43 pm
I guess it is no big deal then to have to show ID for voting as well.
January 7, 2012 at 2:50 pm
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I think the pols are more interested in clamping down on any activity that could potentially be used against them down the road. It’s always about compiling data about our activities. They KNOW how much they are despised because the know how much they should be despised for their corruption. It’s a full time job, defending against revenge.
January 7, 2012 at 3:27 pm
When the earth gets an enema, the nozzle goes right in Chicago. You idiots in Chicago deserve what you get for electing Democrats. I hope your “fine” city slides into the lake.
January 7, 2012 at 3:42 pm
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What idiots wrote this law? Need ID to buy Draco but these jerkoffs wouldn’t require ID to vote.
January 7, 2012 at 4:01 pm
But I don’t need a proof of who I am or not who I am to vote. But I do need proof to buy drain cleaner. What if my drain is clogged and can’t buy he stuff? Guess I need to call a union plumber.
January 7, 2012 at 4:05 pm
laws are created to protect us from lawyers
January 7, 2012 at 4:08 pm
So a photo ID is a burdensome requirement to vote, but just dandy to buy drain cleaner?
January 7, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Don’t these stupid morons realize that this law will discriminate against the 50 MILLION or so ILLEGAL ALIENS who are here….How will they be able to buy DRAINO to unclog their drains just like if they have to produce photo IDs to be able to VOTE ILLEGALLY next November? THEY can’t get LEGAL photo IDs without some other form if ID…DISCRIMINATION of the harshest kind!
January 7, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Sounds racist to me, What kind of burden will this put on the poor and minorities, particularly poor African-Americans. After all this will mean that they have to have some form of ID in order to make a purchase. This may actually intimitate minorities keeping them away from the hardware stores or force upon them the unreasonable burden of having to get official state approved IDs. This law (purchaser ID) is clearly meant to keep minorities away from the hardware stores—–so it is rascist. Just what you would expect from the democrat party.
January 7, 2012 at 4:30 pm
http://www.franks4illinois.com/
January 7, 2012 at 4:38 pm
So, I need to show photo ID to clean sh!t from my toilet … but I don’t need photo ID to cast a vote for the most powerful human being on Earth.
Democrats.
January 7, 2012 at 4:44 pm
No ID required to vote though
January 7, 2012 at 4:47 pm
HEY, where’s the AG, eric holder on this?!!!!! No photo id to VOTE but photo id to buy DRAINO….go figure!!!!! Are we upside down as a society or WHAT?!!!
January 7, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Please, please, please, don’t take your anger out on store owners and their employees, because they don’t like it anymore than you do. Far better that you should take it out on the liberal kneejerk corruptocrats that you insist on electing and even re-electing to public office and who then misrepresent you, their constituents with such damnfool braindead shenanigans. It’s time Illinoisians grew a collective pair, got mad, and got even by throwing the bums out of office on Election Day. It couldn’t happen to a more deserving group.
January 7, 2012 at 5:13 pm
But you don’t need an ID to vote. Curious…
January 7, 2012 at 5:25 pm
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Everyone who purchases knives should also have to present ID and sign off. Same with forks, really.
January 7, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Will they accept a Mexican matricular card?
January 7, 2012 at 6:14 pm
What a bunch of government morons… Google “Victor Reisel” for a story of a journalist who was blinded by a chemical attack so long ago I can’t remember when, and these morons are passing a law NOW?
By the way, those drain cleaners are NOT acids, they’re alkalis… Basic, not Acidic, although they can do more damage to the human body because the human body is buffered against mild aciids but NOT against alkali.
And for that matter, battery acid can do one hell of a lot of damage to a person, so to single out Drano and its ilk because of one cruel moron’s actions and not include rather equally dangerous acids like the kind used in car batteries says one thing….
Your legislators should have to pass some kind of basic science test before being allowed to enact laws like these.
Thank goodness itls IL, not NC… at least yet…
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and now for the truth:
This law does not cover standard over the counter drain cleaners. You can still walk into any store in the state and buy a product capable of cleaning your drains. What you CAN’T do any longer (without showing your ID) is buy the super industrial, highly caustic versions of these products that present a public health risk, are used in the manufacture of meth, and destroy the environment when flushed down the toilet, all factors considered by our legislators and ignored by the shoddy and biased reporting of Mr. Roberts.
Just to clarify on what’s at stake, the products that have been limited (hydrochloric, nitric, sulfuric, carbolic, and oxalic acids, amongst others), are capable not only of melting skin in the concentration levels being sold, but of melting concrete and many metals on contact. Is that really something we should allow to be sold on the open market, without any expectation of government monitoring? Why should we allow these caustic agents to be flushed into the public water supply at these concentrations in the first place, when there are other reasonable solutions available to us? (pipe snakes, etc.)
To put this in perspective, anyone who sells standard bleach for swimming pools (nowhere near as caustic as these drain cleaners), is required by federal law to go through lengthy training and certification to insure the product is sold and used in a manner that doesn’t risk the public health. That’s why you can’t buy pool-strength bleach in grocery and hardware stores. Meanwhile, these drain cleaner acids are being sold by businessmen who have no idea what’s even in them, and accept no responsibility for their use (I’m sensing a theme on Republican denial of responsibility to society here.)
My favorite parts of the various news reports is when the businesses selling these products complain that they are being asked to actually know what’s in that bottle of caustic acid they are selling to an unwitting public. lol.
The Constitution mandates the federal government with protecting us against possible harm from all fronts. If Conservatives insist on obstructing government’s Constitutional responsibilities, then they leave it up to the states to fulfill that role. Spray paints that contain heavy metals that go directly to your liver and never leave until they eventually kill you, were only banned from our midst because of California taking the lead. Other deadly products are on the way out. Get used to it. That’s your government doing their job.
It should also be pointed out that the bill was passed with strong Republican support.
January 8, 2012 at 2:17 am
You seem to have overlooked the heavy metal like Mecury in these new light bulbs the government is telling us we must buy to save the earth but they are actualy are poisioning everything. Huh, imagine that, enviromentalist are bad for the enviroment. Sometimes its not the bulb thats dim, just the user.
January 9, 2012 at 6:26 pm
You poor little thing, I’m sorry I was more attached to the freedom part of the Constitution where you are more fond of the Government babysitter nanny state liberal misinterpitation. The only thing the I need protecting from is people that think like you.
January 9, 2012 at 7:02 pm
If the government was intrested in protecting the Constitution in the slightest way they would require id to vote before requiring it to buy drain cleaner. The Constitution mandates lots of things of higher priority, like build a border fence and stopping illegal imigration. Fixing current imigration laws, while deporting the criminals that are here now. Top priorty should be to stop expanding the government payroll, and STOP SPENDING MY GRANDCHILDRENS MONEY!
January 9, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Sounds like Kerry is havin another wet dream about Orwells’ 1984.
January 9, 2012 at 8:04 pm
I have always been against abortion but in your case Kerry I might reconcider. After all who needs self responsibility when the government can tell me what to do. Who cares if it “passed with strong Republican support” That just means the TEA party people are right. We don’t want to give them any more ammo I am glad to hear that you agree the Liberal Democrats are trying to use the Constitution to control social behaver and they must be stopped. Atleast while they were making social laws there a few minutes they were distracted from spending.
January 9, 2012 at 10:31 pm
“One of the customers actually threatened the (cashier) and threatened to throw the acid on her.”
Drain openers are usually a powerful base, like Lye, the opposite of an acid.
January 8, 2012 at 4:57 am
People are also killed with ropes, power cords, knives, shards of glass, and water. Are those things the next to have a silly law attached to them?
This law won’t help. Even if a CSI can determine the brand of drain cleaner, there will still be too many places it could’ve been purchased (or stolen) for it to be traced down. This sort of approach only works for rare substances with few stores selling it.
January 8, 2012 at 8:04 am
So – let me see if I understand this correctly.
Two women were attacked – isn’t already against the law to attack two women and do them harm?
So, two women, out of a population of 3 MILLION, that’s 0.000067% of the population of Chicago.
So, two women, out of a population of 13 MILLION in the State, that’s 0.000015% of the population of the state.
So, for this small percent of the population – and for an act being committed that is already illegal and unlawful – everyone in the state must suffer.
Refuse – the people need to refuse to provide the ID, the stores need to refuse to collect the IDs, and everyone needs to refuse to pay any ‘fines’ associated with this abject insanity.
January 8, 2012 at 10:06 am
Besides – why should anyone provide ID to purchase drain cleaner when Obama does not have to provide ID to unlawfully occupy the Office he has usurped.
….. and, NO, that was not a question.
January 8, 2012 at 10:08 am
If these legilslators had been in office during Capone’s era, they would have had a requirement for ID to purchase baseball bats.
January 8, 2012 at 11:08 am
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Indiana is right next door if your tired of being part of the stupid state of Illinois.
Really this law is just downright stupid.
Oh well Indiana is open for business and Sales tax on Drain Cleaner here is 3% less than Crook County :)
Also Income Taxes are less and Property Taxes are capped at 1% of a homes value.
Corruption has a Price.
January 8, 2012 at 7:26 pm
I think i might just start up a good business.
Buy Drain Cleaner in Indiana and sell it in Illinois for the price i paid in Indiana.
I would make a profit and the people of the Dysfunctional state of Illinois would pay LESS than if they went to the store because sales taxes are higher in Illinois compared to Indiana.
hmmm $$$$$$$..
January 8, 2012 at 7:35 pm
ROTFL!!! OMG I am so glad that I do not live in the peoples republic of Ill.
Please do not move to my state with that mentality…..
January 9, 2012 at 10:44 am
Providing the name of the law, Public Act 097-0565, or Bill number, HB2193 Enrolled, should be a required element of any story such as this. Don’t make us do your research for you.
January 10, 2012 at 12:07 pm
This is clearly slave training for the police state that is being built around us. To teach use that government is not our servant but our master.
Check out Alex Jones at:
http://www.gcnlive.com/listen.php If this resonates with you.
Beware you are about to take the red pill.
January 11, 2012 at 10:49 am
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Dear State of Illinois: You are NOT our mother, father, or Big Brother.
You constantly waste precious time and our money, inventing laws that curtail our freedoms and liberties; YOU SUCK. From beginning to end, HOW much money did this law cost the taxpayers?
FIX the financial mess you’ve put us in before you tell us to pay and obey!
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Hmm…. does that mean poor people that can’t get ID can’t unstop their sinks?
January 16, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Vote term limits!
January 16, 2012 at 10:05 pm
They will probably smuggle it in and be selling it on the street or they can use their LINK card from their anchor baby. Time to flush out the policiticans in Springfield
January 5, 2012 at 9:10 pm
N o but they can still vote without ID,,,
January 6, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Its a good thing, we don’t have any economic issues we should be addressing.
Maybe redirect some energy to solving some stuff, vs trying to slow stuff down.
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January 6, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Didn’t you know? Illegals don’t need to show ID’s to buy DRAINO.
January 6, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Nope. Cant ask them for ID. Guess I will get my Drano from Pedro.
January 6, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Please, No Draino for “immigrants”
January 6, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Guns. Spray paint, Sudufed. lightbulbs and now drain cleaner. How about a Department of Subversive Consumer Products to track anyone who buys these anti-social products? Think of how many Federal employees they would need. Of course it could always be rolled into the IRS like healthcare. Don’t forget it’s for your own good!
January 6, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RACIST! Only white people will have clear drains
January 6, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Good point. Hose A and Hose B will have to get it on the black market, now.
January 6, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Racism honkies!!!!
January 6, 2012 at 9:07 pm
So the Chicago Blackhawks players will have to show id’s to stock up on hockey sticks? There have been hundreds of hockey players badly scarred by hockey sticks.
January 6, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Unbelievable our politicians have no trouble passing laws that are ridiculous take our freedoms away but they can’t figure out real problems like budgets. Can’t stand Democrats or Republicans. What happened to our free society?
January 6, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Require all voters to buy a small sample bottle of drain cleaner BEFORE they can vote.. kill two birds with one stone. Don’t let em buy it with a SNAP card… also knocks out the welfare folks… love it.. I am a genius..
January 7, 2012 at 5:35 am
now why do these politicians want photo id for buying drain cleaner, but NOT for voting, I think i smell a democRAT.
January 7, 2012 at 5:53 am
great another black market product i can make money on, let ‘s ban alcohol also. the money will roll in…lmao
January 7, 2012 at 6:26 am
or Democrats
January 7, 2012 at 7:17 am
P.S. PAT QUINN I WANT MY RIGHT TO CARRY A FIRE ARM TOO I’M NO FELON NOR CRIMINAL AND I’M SICK AND TIRED OF YOU TREATING ME LIKE ONE!
January 6, 2012 at 4:54 am
January 6, 2012 at 12:33 pm
How many actually read the bill??? (another :LETS’ PASS THIS SO WE CAN SEE WHAT’S IN IT) State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) needs his sanity inspected…..
January 6, 2012 at 12:40 pm
If you want your rights then exercise them don’t ask for permission. It’s really that simple. If enough people stepped up and EXERCISED their rights without asking permission the idiocy would stop.
Criminals don’t ask permission so why should you?
January 6, 2012 at 1:04 pm
“State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago women, badly scarring them.”
This is the very definition of a knee-jerk, reactionary law. Two – count them, TWO – attacks in the entire state on Illinois led to a law being passed. Technically, just about anything could be used as a weapon against someone. So following this logic, shouldn’t a government-issued ID be required to buy anything, ever? Then again, perhaps I shouldn’t give State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) any ideas.
January 6, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Chicago put Obama in office….the Dems will ruin the country. Just another example of Big Brother
January 7, 2012 at 7:30 am
Just remember folks, the most insidious law is the law passed to “save” you the public from themselves. The Politician believes that they are a moral superior and that it is for your own good. Think of all of the products that can and have maimed people? We need to show ID in Chicago to buy spray paint because a small percentage of the public are taggers. We need ID to buy cold meds because a very small percentage of the public are meth heads, we need to show ID because an EXTREMELY small percentage of the public has been attacked by an acid weilding psycho. We need to show TWO ID’s to purchase a firearm when an EXTREMELY low percentage of gun owners commit crime. yet asking the public to show ID to vote these idiots into office is unthinkable and their decisions effect 100% of the publiic.
January 7, 2012 at 8:33 am
You want to stop this law? Protest it.
Block stores, raise hell, scream and shout, Make everyone hate their jobs until its repealed. Its time for us to take a page from the Occupy types and start really raising hell when govt gets stupid.
January 7, 2012 at 8:59 am
Funny how it is just fine to require an ID to buy drain cleaner but not to vote. Only in Chicago does it make sense to protect our plumbing but not our ballots.
January 7, 2012 at 9:09 am
So, you need a govt. approved photo ID to buy a can of Draino, but no photo ID to vote? And, according to all the black racists, requiring people to provide a photo ID to vote is racist, so why isn’t this new law? Where are all the professional race-pimps now?
Things like this can only happen in a nation who’s people have become nothing more than a group of weak, mindless sheep.
January 7, 2012 at 9:11 am
OK to require a photo ID to buy household cleaner but not to protect our sacred right to vote? Typical Chicago style politics.
January 7, 2012 at 9:11 am
What laws do we have to protect us from stupid law makers????
January 7, 2012 at 9:59 am
I am not sure what is more caustic, drain cleaner or the slathering comments made on New York Times web site supporting Mrs. Obama’s clearing the cesspool of a toilet that is the White House. Way to go New York Times monitors not one negative post allowed. NYT is so plugged that no amount of Drano would clear it.
January 7, 2012 at 10:23 am
So you need ID to buy drain cleaner but you DON’T need ID to vote.
Can you tell me how much sense this makes ?
January 7, 2012 at 12:59 pm
If you live in IL … Recall this LOAD that claims to be congessmen .
January 7, 2012 at 4:18 pm
We can’t get photo Id’s enacted to vote but they can do this for Drano? Where is all the clamor about discrimination towards poorer minorities from having access to clean and unclogged plumbing ;-)
January 6, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Probably it’s purpose is along the lines of environmental regulations in the guise of hiding behind burning of others.
January 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm
It’s an excellent law- but it doesn’t go far enough!
Water has been used to drown people for eons.
It’s about time our lawmakers outlaw that evil, dangerous subject.
And did you know that Fire is only possible with Oxygen! We must seek an immediate ban on Oxygen if we want to save our children.
January 6, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Did you happen to see the letter D in front of the name? D stands for Democrat and that was all I needed to hear. Nothing unusual here.
January 6, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Will that include minorities and blacks ? Wink, wink :)
January 6, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Good point. I actually couldnt find liquid drano the day before Thanksgiving. I borrowed a liquid kihe and joked to my friend, they must be making meth from it. Go figure, and then I read this today! lol. Too bad I dont bet on horses.
January 6, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Thank you for stating the obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 6, 2012 at 2:38 pm
DOES THIS MEAN CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS CANNOT BUY DRAINO
Soda will require an ID too because soda can mixed with liquor. Chips and snacks will soon require ID and an Obama care permission note.
January 6, 2012 at 4:54 pm
If you require photo IDs to vote, then the crime syndicate call the DemocRAT party cannot steal elections.
This is the ONLY reason you do not have to prove anything in order to vote.
January 6, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Perhaps we should sell drano at the polling booths so we can then legally ask for ID. You are required by law to have an ID, to: purchase cigarettes, drive, purchase alcohol, purchase snuff, get a passport, get drugs from a pharmacy that are controlled, buy super glue, buy drain cleaner now, purchase an airline ticket, and all sorts of other things, but you cannot ask anyone that looks mexican for an ID for any reason…what’s wrong with this picture? How do they buy airline tickets, drive a car, get insurance, work, cash checks, buy cigarettes, buy alcohol….how do they do this without an ID????
January 6, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Seems like if they are the type to use it as a weapon, it will be pretty easy to steal it…Then they will blame the innocent..
January 6, 2012 at 2:46 pm
I got one for ya from the land of fruits and nuts, CA. A State congress woman had a law passed to outlaw Lindane. For the uninformed, Lindane was the very best cure for things like scabies and crabs.Somehow it adversely affects the water? Now I know this doesn’t sound important, but if you’ve ever had one of those maladies, you know how miserable it can be. My friend, a dermatologist in the Sacramento area said he would write the script for Lindane and send the patient to Reno to get it. Just another example of the nanny state liberal democrats taking away our freedoms a little bit at a time. How many people worldwide have died of malaria since the ban on DDT? And NO! We can’t enforce voter registration laws showing proof of citizenship. *sigh*
January 6, 2012 at 3:26 pm
I wonder if I could slip some Draino past DHS at the airport?
January 6, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Does this include, Charcoal Lighter Fluid? Bar keeper’s Friend? Paint remover? Oven cleaner? Coleman fuel? Gasoline? Here near Houston we just had another annoyed male trying to burn his GF alive…… his Bic failed, but he fiinally got the house alight…..
CLR? Where does it end?
January 6, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Where else but Chicago. You need ID to purchase drain cleaner but not to vote.
January 7, 2012 at 7:55 am
You could kill with that ID. Maybe you should have to show ID to get an ID.
January 7, 2012 at 8:09 am
Knee Jerk reaction is correct as with all politicians, you have to have an ID to purchase drain cleaner, but don’t have to provide on to vote, what am I missing here?
January 7, 2012 at 10:35 am
And shouldn’t government issued IDs be used to VOTE???
January 7, 2012 at 10:40 am
But…take joy in that you can VOTE without an ID in this state! Wah hoo!!
January 7, 2012 at 1:33 pm
ID IS REQUIRED FOR EVERYHING, EXCEPT VOTING.
January 7, 2012 at 3:29 pm
My thoughts too, you don’t need an Id or even proof of citizenship to vote but you need an Id to by a can of crano! How stupid is this?
January 6, 2012 at 8:18 pm
They might be wise to post monitors at voting booths to ensure that the people voting sans ID have not used their liberty to purchase drain cleaner for he purpose of scarring IDed voters.
January 8, 2012 at 11:15 am
Hillarious. Great idea.
January 6, 2012 at 11:00 pm
great idea!
January 7, 2012 at 2:40 pm
They are not Dems. They are the enemy of this nation and Our Constitution and should be hunted down and exterminated. Thats my opinion.
January 7, 2012 at 7:46 am
Seriously scary stuff this country is on the express train to fascism
January 7, 2012 at 10:37 am
I could not agree more! Unbelievable!
January 7, 2012 at 10:19 am
So your answer to a law that hurts business is to engage in tactics that hurt business even more? Ridiculous. You should not be allowed to vote.
January 7, 2012 at 11:22 am
I’m with you!!! There is only one way this ends and none of these sheep are willing to accept it yet! The way this ends is with soldiers forcibly entering our homes, extracting us, and transporting us to places unknown for purp0oses unknown most likely never to be seen again!!!! When the noose was still this large they didn’t think it could happen in Germany but it did!!! You are watching the march to the ovens, you never thought you would see it in your time, but here it is again!!! Right now it is just the perception of freedom we are losing, tomorrow, maybe the next day you will run into the wall of your reality where you will be told to go no further and to turn back. It could be something as simple as having to give a blood-sample to get on the bus, or like this requiring ID for a cleaning chemical because it can be weaponized!!! I can’t believe one of these stores hasn’t been torched in protest for their Nazi-collaboration!!!
Protest and saying No are the best tools we have. If those tools had been employed a long time before 1938, the Jews would not have suffered their pogrom. Right now we can still say NO!!!!
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 11:50 am
I concur. Also vote them out every term. Even the good ones? Imagine how that would pull their taffy.
January 16, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Here, here Dan. If we had to present legal IDs to vote then the libs wouldn’t be able to rig elections. Funny how you have to show ID to vote in an union election but don’t in a US election.
January 7, 2012 at 11:25 am
The ability to say NOOO!!! is your only weapon. Fortunately it’s also the only weapon we need to make it stop. But you won’t, you’ll sit there like a placid cow, sipping your coffee, munching your doughnut. Standing up and saying No are all you need to defeat worthless baseless liberty-eroding laws! Do it before they have made even that illegal!!!!!!!!!
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 12:16 pm
The voting booth
January 7, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Racist n|gger!!!
There! Happy now?
January 7, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Actually whites and Mexicans make over 90% of the Meth these days. Crack on the other hand….
-Oz
January 7, 2012 at 12:40 pm
You may laugh, but check the facts at http://www.dhmo.org/
January 7, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Very informative, thanks. I love the part about the KKK using it during their march. I guess they were the only ones with id to buy it. The poor minorites cant afford id’s so they can’t march from the constipation because of the clogged toilet. LOL
January 9, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Sounds like a disinformation hit piece to me. a 22 rim fire is lethal but I sure as hell do not want them to be outlawed.
January 9, 2012 at 8:37 pm